Re: Broadview Still Paying Off the BBB

["Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:UrOxn.99523$NH1.66174@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Doug wrote:
>> "Jim Rojas"<jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote in message
>> news:V_Nxn.222092$wr5.216027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Customer Complaint History
>>>
>>> BBB serving Dallas, Texas maintains a report on this company's
>>> headquarters location. Please visit dallas.bbb.org for details or call
>>> (214) 220-2000.
>>>
>>> When considering complaint information, please take into account the
>>> company's size and volume of transactions, and understand that the
>>> nature
>>> of complaints and a firm's responses to them are often more important
>>> than
>>> the number of complaints.
>>>
>>> BBB processed a total of 465 complaints about this company in the last
>>> 36
>>> months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 465 complaints
>>> closed in 36 months, 208 were closed in the last year.
>>> These complaints concerned :
>>> 5 regarding Issue Not Defined
>>>
>>> 5 regarding Advertising Issues
>>>
>>> 1 - Advertisement misrepresented a product
>>> 1 - Advertisement misrepresented a service
>>> 3 - None of the Above - Advertising Complaint Issue
>>> 113 regarding Billing or Collection Issues
>>>
>>> 16 - Failure to correct billing errors
>>> 3 - Failure to substantiate charges
>>> 7 - Improper collection practices
>>> 86 - None of the Above - Credit, Billing or Collection Complaint Issue
>>> 1 - Unauthorized credit card charges
>>> 109 regarding Contract Issues
>>>
>>> 14 - Failure to honor a contract or agreement
>>> 7 - Invalid or false contract
>>> 75 - None of the Above - Contract Complaint Issue
>>> 12 - Unauthorized changes to the contract or agreement
>>> 1 - Work performed outside the terms of the contract or agreement
>>> 110 regarding Customer Service Issues
>>>
>>> 11 - Failure to provide promised assistance or support for products or
>>> services
>>> 4 - Failure to respond to phone calls or written requests for assistance
>>> or support
>>> 1 - Inappropriate behavior by customer service personnel
>>> 94 - None of the Above - Customer Service Complaint Issue
>>> 2 regarding Delivery Issues
>>>
>>> 2 - None of the Above - Delivery Complaint Issue
>>> 5 regarding Guarantee or Warranty Issues
>>>
>>> 1 - Failure to honor service under the terms of warranties
>>> 2 - Failure to provide promised written warranty or guarantee
>>> 2 - None of the Above - Guarantee or Warranty Complaint Issue
>>> 8 regarding Product Issues
>>>
>>> 1 - Defective, damaged, or incorrect product received
>>> 7 - None of the Above - Product Quality Complaint Issue
>>> 22 regarding Refund or Exchange Issues
>>>
>>> 2 - Failure to honor promised refunds, exchanges, or credit
>>> 5 - Failure to honor refund, exchange or credit policies
>>> 15 - None of the Above - Refund or Exchange Complaint Issue
>>> 6 regarding Repair Issues
>>>
>>> 1 - Delayed completion of repair
>>> 1 - Failure to honor a repair estimate or agreement
>>> 1 - Improper or inferior repair
>>> 3 - None of the Above - Repair Complaint Issue
>>> 30 regarding Sales Practice Issues
>>>
>>> 18 - None of the Above - Sales Complaint Issue
>>> 1 - Sales presentation did not disclose complete pricing information
>>> 5 - Sales presentation did not disclose key conditions of the offer
>>> 1 - Sales presentation not consistent with the written agreement
>>> 4 - Sales presentation used dishonest sales practices
>>> 1 - Sales presentation used high pressure methods
>>> 50 regarding Service Issues
>>>
>>> 2 - Delayed completion of service
>>> 4 - Failure to honor service estimate or agreement
>>> 1 - Failure to provide invoice or estimate for service upon request
>>> 10 - Improper or inferior service
>>> 32 - None of the Above - Service Complaint Issue
>>> 1 - Unauthorized service
>>>
>>> These complaints were closed as:
>>> 331 Resolved
>>>
>>> 224 - Company addressed the complaint issues. The consumer failed to
>>> acknowledge acceptance to BBB.
>>> 107 - Company resolved the complaint issues. The consumer acknowledged
>>> acceptance to BBB.
>>> 134 Administratively Closed
>>>
>>>
>>> 134 Administratively Closed? Does this mean that Broadview wrote a check
>>> to the BBB? What gives? I just don't get it. I have 1 failed to respond
>>> complaint in 13 years and I get an F rating? Really...I guess I need
>>> borrow some from Broadview. I refuse to write a check to clear this up.
>>> It
>>> kind of defeats the purpose of the BBB.
>>>
>>> Jim Rojas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not really, the purpose of the BBB is the same as any other company- to
>> make
>> money
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>
> Here's what I think it boils down to: If a business pays their annual dues
> to the BBB (racketeering fee), they will have a A+ Rating. Period. A
> customer can sue Broadview in a court of law and win. But the BBB would
> continue to give them an A+ Rating.
>
> In fact, any company could be sued unlimited times, and lose each time.
> But unless the "arbitration" went through the BBB, using their
> arbitrators, it would not affect their BBB rating.
>
> Bernie Madoff's company was a member with the Better Business Bureau, and
> look what happened there. I am sure many of these companies that have huge
> scams going on are paid members with the BBB.
>
> Jim Rojas

I had one complaint years ago from a client who wanted me to do repairs for
free with a grossly past due balance on their account.  I refused.  I
responded to the BBB complaint and was told it was listed as resolved.  Out
of curiosity I just checked my rating with them.  Holy cow.  What a clueless
lot.  They still list an ancient business address from before I bought my
current property and put up my shop.  What got me though was...


Customer Complaint History
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BBB has processed no customer complaints on this company in its three year
reporting period.


Rating.  B-

Probably because whenever they call me to try and weedle money out of my I
tell them there is no way I would donate to such a weazely sleezy outfit as
the BBB who rates criminal organizations with an A because they pay.