Re: An ethical conundrum... Opinions welcome!

["RockyTSquirrel" <gafa@/nospam/usa.com>]

whats the big deal.
Just chapter and verse the owner, local AHJ and state AHJ.
Then sit back and watch the finger pointing.
Then when all that settles down, go to the owner with your proposal.

Then like has been said,  make sure EVERYTHING is in writing...
RTS

C.Y.O.A.
(the rule of life in the americas)

"Bill" <billnomailnospamx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Frank Olson"  wrote in message
> >
> > ..Should any professional alarm dealer even offer to monitor a fire
alarm
> > system without a daily test signal?  I shudder to think of the possible
> > liability issues involved...
> >
>
> The building owners/management are going to choose the least costly route.
> Only what the insurance company or fire department requires and nothing
> more. They are in business to make a profit.
>
> The alarm company and monitoring company are not going to give away
services
> for free. They are in business to make a profit.
>
> Seems to me the building owner should have the minimum system installed
and
> perform minimum required service/testing on that system. And have the
> paperwork to prove they did this. Then they can say they did what was
> required.
>
> And I think the alarm company should have documentation that they
installed
> and tested what the customer wanted. And offer additional testing
services.
> If the customer refuses these services, it should be well documented. Same
> with the monitoring company.
>
> Then the burden would be with the insurance company and fire department.
>
> The insurance companies can take care of themselves, however fire
> departments are not known to be meccas of highly intelligent types...
>
> So if an alarm company sees an unsafe situation which could cause loss of
> life due to an alarm not functioning properly, I think it would be the
> "right thing to do", to educate the fire department as to these defects in
> the local codes and help them change them, so safe systems are required.
> i.e. Make it a requirement that fire systems for high-rises must be tested
> daily or have a monitored line.
>
> Then the building owners would do this because it would be a minimum
> requirement. (And if they want something less than that, refuse to do
> business with them.)
>
> And if you correspond with the fire department asking that this be made a
> requirement, be sure to do this in writing and save your documentation.
Then
> you can say you tried to get the building owner to do the right thing, you
> tried to get the fire department to do the right thing, but no one
listened!
>
>