Re: System Sensor 2W-B

["Doug" <not@xxxxxxxx>]

"Doug" <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Frank Olson" <use-the-email-links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>> KingFish wrote:
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>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> "Frank Olson" <use-the-email-links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>>>>>> The 2W-B (2 wire) does not show up on the compatibility list for the
>>>>>> Vista
>>>>>> 20.  You'll have to use the 4W and an EOL supervision relay.  Only
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> following 2-wire smokes are compatible (see page 18 of your Vista 20
>>>>>> installation manual):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> System Sensor 2300TB, 2400, 2400TH, 2451 w/ B401B Base, 2451TH w/
>>>>>> B401B
>>>>>> Base, 1400, 1451 w B401B Base, 2451 w/ DH400 Base, 1451 w/ DH400
>>>>>> Base,
>>>>>> 1100 and 2100T
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use only UL approved compatible devices for connection to a listed
>>>>>> panel.
>>>>>> And the pro's here should really check their facts before opening
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> big yaps!  :-)
>>>>> Yappidy yap yap
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>>>>> http://www.systemsensor.org/html/cd.html?page=2-wire&co=Honeywell%20Security%20(Ademco)&panel=VISTA%2020
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>>>>> http://www.sdilink.com/pdf/SystemSensor/SystemSensorsmoke.pdf
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>>>>> Doug
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>>>> OK...  So the question remains...  why doesn't the panel manufacturer
>>>> list them as compatible?  IMO, I would only install those detectors the
>>>> panel manufacturer lists.
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>>> because that Ademco manual was made years before the smokes were
>>> invented
>>> and manufactured.
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>> And your point???  Every FIRE ALARM manufacturer I know of provides a
>> list
>> of compatible smoke detectors.  The smoke detector manufacturer is
>> interested in selling...  smoke detectors...  and hopefully gets included
>> in that list.  How does a smoke detector manufacturer determine
>> whether-or-not his new "little gem" of technology is going to be
>> compatible with say... a Mircom 300 series panel, or an Ademco Vista 20?
>> I
>> somehow think the procedure involves a resubmittal (to UL) for testing
>> (which would also involve the panel manufacturer's engineering
>> department).  I haven't seen Ademco publish an updated list anywhere.
>> Seeing as how I'm taking on the responsibility of installing a system,
>> I'm
>> also responsible for ensuring that the life safety devices connected to
>> it
>> are, in fact, compatible.  Therefore, the panel manufacturer's list is
>> the
>> one I go by.
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>> I'll call up Honeywell later today and see if they've got an updated
>> compatiblity list.  I do happen to like the C2W's.  They are my smoke
>> detector of choice.
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> While your on the phone to Honeywell, you may like to point them to this
> page on System Sensors website
> http://www.systemsensor.com/html/search_all.php?s=
> and then in the search box plug in each of the detectors (one at a time)
> listed in the Ademco installation manual, you may start to see a
> pattern after you've entered a few model numbers.
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> Doug
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If you fail to see the pattern this link may help

http://www.systemsensor.com/html/disprod.html?pl=1

Doug