Re: DSC GSM Radio back ups

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 27, 8:55=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 10:27=A0pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It came today and it's a lot bigger than I thought it was gonna be.
> > Reading specs...still confusing...haven't had chance to hook it up yet.
>
> > --
> > **Crash Gordon**
>
> > "tourman" <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> >news:fed9ef10-1018-4e23-afde-1c7957c6aac2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
.
>
> > > On Aug 23, 1:16 am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >> I just ordered a 2530 should have it Monday/Tuesday....apparently Up=
link
> > >> did
> > >> not do a very good job of promoting it to distrib. OR letting their =
tech
> > >> support know that it doesn't need a 2 amp pwr supply. Their document=
ation
> > >> isn't even finished yet - they sent me a red-lined copy of the insta=
ll
> > >> sheet.
>
> > >> Supposedly it pulls 600ma max (verbally) but if you look at the docs=
 it
> > >> says
> > >> 250ma on transmission...soooo...what does that mean? Dunno, they gav=
e me
> > >> some double-speak dribble about 3 volts conversion from 12volt
> > >> supply...have
> > >> no idea what they mean. But since a Vista 15 has 600ma and only runn=
ing 1
> > >> kp
> > >> ought to be ok if you power from the battery charging circuit....or =
maybe
> > >> even the keypad buss power. I can hardly wait to blow one up.
>
> > >> --
> > >> **Crash Gordon**
>
> > >> "tourman" <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:e411f391-b36c-487a-b96b-f02843dd5448@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
m...
>
> > >> > On Aug 19, 12:02 am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
id>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> Im gonna try this on an XR6 sending CID...if it doesn't work I'll=
 go
> > >> >> with
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> vista 10 probably...there's only 1 window, 2 doors and maybe a 1 =
gb
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> maybe 1 keyfob.
>
> > >> >> 2530 =A0sounds good too.
>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> **Crash Gordon**
>
> > >> >> "mleuck" <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > >> >>news:0d819377-be0a-43b7-975e-304b80bb2c50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
com...
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> > >> >> > On Aug 16, 11:27 pm, "Crash Gordon"
> > >> >> > <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >> >> 2550 is same flat rate (unless you increase the test
> > >> >> >> frequency)...and
> > >> >> >> it
> > >> >> >> passes SIA & CID through, no extra big power supply and has it=
s own
> > >> >> >> mini
> > >> >> >> battery backup. I'm gonna put one in my daughters apt next wee=
k.
>
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> **Crash Gordon**
>
> > >> >> >> "nick markowitz" <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> > >> >> >>news:e321e97d-28ab-4467-8ad6-b0a714047530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
ps.com...
>
> > >> >> >> > On Aug 9, 12:55 pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> On Aug 9, 6:45 am, nick markowitz <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wr=
ote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> > On Aug 8, 4:31 pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> > > On Aug 7, 9:52 pm, G. Morgan <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> w=
rote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> > > > mleuck wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> > > > >If that is the plan he signed then yes, do you not
> > >> >> >> >> > > > >understand
> > >> >> >> >> > > > >how
> > >> >> >> >> > > > >service plans work?
>
> > >> >> >> >> > > > Sure, they are one-sided with the advantage always go=
ing
> > >> >> >> >> > > > to
> > >> >> >> >> > > > Mega-Corp.
>
> > >> >> >> >> > > And yet he still signed up, next time read the contract
>
> > >> >> >> >> > > > For all we know that thing is sending bullshit
> > >> >> >> >> > > > diagnostics/updates
> > >> >> >> >> > > > and other
> > >> >> >> >> > > > non-alarm related stuff. =A0I would want to see a bre=
akdown
> > >> >> >> >> > > > of
> > >> >> >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> >> >> > > > data
> > >> >> >> >> > > > allegedly x-mitted, and separate the garbage from the
> > >> >> >> >> > > > actual
> > >> >> >> >> > > > signals.
>
> > >> >> >> >> > > Or he could have been sending opening/closings, daily t=
est
> > >> >> >> >> > > signals
> > >> >> >> >> > > etc
>
> > >> >> >> >> > Thats why I like =A0Uplink and its flat rate =A0may not d=
o cid
> > >> >> >> >> > simple
> > >> >> >> >> > general burg or fiire but no cut offs or overages etc. li=
ke
> > >> >> >> >> > tellular
> > >> >> >> >> > and others.
>
> > >> >> >> >> It sounds like you are using AnyNet, why not the new 2550?
>
> > >> >> >> > waiting to try out a 2550 have not had any new cell back ups=
 come
> > >> >> >> > in
> > >> >> >> > have used the cid adapter it works great for any net
>
> > >> >> > They also have a cheaper 2530 coming out that's powered by the =
panel
> > >> >> > battery unless they've changed something since beta. I've got o=
ne
> > >> >> > connected to a 21iP and it works very well
>
> > >> > RHC: Yeah, I've just been talking to Uplink as well as my local
> > >> > wholesaler and I plan to install an Uplink 2530 unit next week for=
 a
> > >> > client who has no phone line. The monthly rate for transmission is
> > >> > identical to any of the other digital Uplink units I have in servi=
ce
> > >> > and it needs nothing special in the way of receivers at the monito=
ring
> > >> > station. If this unit works as advertised, it's a relatively
> > >> > inexpensive way to get around all the VoIP bull**it (assuming thos=
e
> > >> > cheapshit customers will pay for it of course...which they likely
> > >> > won't)
>
> > >> > But for anyone serious about their alarm transmission security to =
the
> > >> > station, this looks GOOD. I'll post later next week how it goes...=
..
>
> > > RHC: I guess with so much uncertaintly, it will probably be best to
> > > put in an auxiliary power supply and back up battery, like the older
> > > Uplink units, just to be safe.
>
> RHC: Bottom line, directions say it needs a full 1.6 amps of current
> draw at 12 volts during transmission. Unless you have that spare in
> the panel after powering other devices, use a 3A/12volt output power
> supply with a separate backup battery. I'm putting one on line today,
> and I'm taking no chances with that personally.

RHC: Update to above. The unit programs easily over the internet and
works well as described. With the older analog Uplink units, you could
go online to see the actual signal strength of each signal sent and
received. With the newer digital units, it only shows online the
signals sent individually, and whether it was a successful
transmission, or not.

I did notice one difference between Contact ID over a phone line and
Contact ID over the radio loop. Over a phone line, a series of alarm
signals is sent as one steady stream, then the receiver kisses off
when the complete set of signals is sent. This all takes place very
quickly. With the Uplink unit, each signal is sent individually, then
the receiver kisses off, and the next signal is sent. So a stream of
signals can take awhile to go to the station.

When I called in to see the results of all the zone tests, the
operator was telling me that the signals were still coming in one by
one as we were talking. Ten zone alarms plus restores, three keypad
panics and their restores, and a smoke detector and it's restore,
seemed to take a good five minutes in total.......

If I was the cynical type (naahh.......), I would suggest it is being
done this way so Uplink can accurately count the number of  signals
sent for billing purposes.