Re: kids loitering in gangway

[Nicko <nervous.nick@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mar 27, 8:06 pm, "Mark Leuck" <m..le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Try this, kids hear it and leave, adults don't and aren't affected
>
> http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/deterrent_news_archive.html
>
> http://www.noloitering.ca/news.html
>
> "Nicko" <nervous.n...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> news:e6a0190e-01b9-4ffc-9485-ff0e89535010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > I have recently had problems with teens hanging out smoking weed in
> > the gangway immediately outside the back door to my apartment.  There
> > is a breezway along one side of my 22-unit building which is open
> > except for the section by my back door, which lies in a covered
> > section of the gangway between two gangway doors.
>
> > I have talked to the kids politely, to no effect.  I also called the
> > police, equally in vain The kids must have been watching out the
> > gangway door and saw the cops coming, and ran back into the gangway,
> > up the back porch stairs and into the apartment where one of them
> > lives.  The police walked up those back porch stairs to check it out,
> > but of course found nobody there and could do nothing, legally.
>
> > One of these kids lives in the building, and they are gangbangers,
> > most likely, so probably talking to the parents who live there would
> > not be a good idea if I want to stay here, and I do want to stay
> > here.  I have no problem with kids smoking weed, as I did enough of it
> > in my youth, but it is just WRONG for them to be doing it within feet
> > of my door--especially if my girlfriend is home alone.  And who knows
> > what silly ideas they might get about breaking in when we are not home
> > (though the door itself is alarmed for entry).
>
> > Yesterday I heard the kids out there smoking dope again, and I got
> > what I thought was a good idea:  I took a smoke alarm and held it up
> > to the door and pressed the test button.  The alarm went off, and the
> > kids immediately vacated the gangway area outside my door.  I
> > laughed!  I hope it scared the fuck out of them, but given that they
> > are teens, it's likely they didn't get the message--not to mention
> > that they MUST have known the police came up there looking for them
> > that one time.
>
> > Is there some kind of proximity or "anti-loitering" detector that I
> > could mount inside my apartment/on the inside of this door, that would
> > chirp a couple of times when someone passes through the gangway and
> > past my door, and only activate if someone stays in the area outside
> > my door for a defined amount of time?  And then (important when we are
> > not home) shut off after a set amount of time?  Is this too much to
> > ask?  Probably.
>
> > Such a device would have to "see through" the door, most likely by
> > induction, but I am open to any ideas.  The door is metal, btw, which
> > I know might be an issue, but I could probably rig up something
> > ungrounded between the gangway and the inside of my apartment.
> > Placing a device in the gangway itself is not an option, because of
> > the landlord and because the kids would just rip it off of the ceiling
> > or wall.  The enclosed area of the gangway outside my door measures
> > about 15x7x5 feet so the kids are never more than, say, six feet from
> > the door.
>
> > Thanks for any replies to this.  I apologize for Googleposting but I
> > have my excuses.
>
> > Cheers!
>
> > Nicko

Heh, yeah, that's actually the first thing I thought of.  I hear that
kids were programming the sound into their ring tones so they could
hear their cell phones ring while in class.