Re: kids loitering in gangway

["Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

Try this, kids hear it and leave, adults don't and aren't affected

http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/deterrent_news_archive.html

http://www.noloitering.ca/news.html



"Nicko" <nervous.nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e6a0190e-01b9-4ffc-9485-ff0e89535010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> I have recently had problems with teens hanging out smoking weed in
> the gangway immediately outside the back door to my apartment.  There
> is a breezway along one side of my 22-unit building which is open
> except for the section by my back door, which lies in a covered
> section of the gangway between two gangway doors.
>
> I have talked to the kids politely, to no effect.  I also called the
> police, equally in vain The kids must have been watching out the
> gangway door and saw the cops coming, and ran back into the gangway,
> up the back porch stairs and into the apartment where one of them
> lives.  The police walked up those back porch stairs to check it out,
> but of course found nobody there and could do nothing, legally.
>
> One of these kids lives in the building, and they are gangbangers,
> most likely, so probably talking to the parents who live there would
> not be a good idea if I want to stay here, and I do want to stay
> here.  I have no problem with kids smoking weed, as I did enough of it
> in my youth, but it is just WRONG for them to be doing it within feet
> of my door--especially if my girlfriend is home alone.  And who knows
> what silly ideas they might get about breaking in when we are not home
> (though the door itself is alarmed for entry).
>
> Yesterday I heard the kids out there smoking dope again, and I got
> what I thought was a good idea:  I took a smoke alarm and held it up
> to the door and pressed the test button.  The alarm went off, and the
> kids immediately vacated the gangway area outside my door.  I
> laughed!  I hope it scared the fuck out of them, but given that they
> are teens, it's likely they didn't get the message--not to mention
> that they MUST have known the police came up there looking for them
> that one time.
>
> Is there some kind of proximity or "anti-loitering" detector that I
> could mount inside my apartment/on the inside of this door, that would
> chirp a couple of times when someone passes through the gangway and
> past my door, and only activate if someone stays in the area outside
> my door for a defined amount of time?  And then (important when we are
> not home) shut off after a set amount of time?  Is this too much to
> ask?  Probably.
>
> Such a device would have to "see through" the door, most likely by
> induction, but I am open to any ideas.  The door is metal, btw, which
> I know might be an issue, but I could probably rig up something
> ungrounded between the gangway and the inside of my apartment.
> Placing a device in the gangway itself is not an option, because of
> the landlord and because the kids would just rip it off of the ceiling
> or wall.  The enclosed area of the gangway outside my door measures
> about 15x7x5 feet so the kids are never more than, say, six feet from
> the door.
>
> Thanks for any replies to this.  I apologize for Googleposting but I
> have my excuses.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Nicko
>