Re: Keypad says "check"- can't figure out what's wrong

["Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>As it happens more of the Vista products support it than don't.

I guess that depends on how fine a point you want to put on it. By volume of
panels sold? No. By model? Probably not. By current production model? Maybe,
maybe not; looks about 50-50.

>What wire did you use?

Well it had 22-2 & 22-4 (for burg) and 18-2, 18-4 and 16-2 (for fire) It had
all the proper wire and models and was blessed by Honeywell tech on after an
on site inspections. The silly thing just gets SLOW when there are a bunch
of points, modules etc. It was loaded up and it took it, but it was very
slow.

"Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Roland Moore wrote:
> > When I open Compass for zones 1-8 on a Vista 250FBP it only has two
choices
> > for input type. Hardwired and not used. The other zones have more
choices.
> > It is not until you populate the RF section with an RF device that the
other
> > choices for Input Type show up. However there are still no polling loop
> > options. Most times a Vista 128 or 250 FBP is used for a fire job.
>
> Not here.  You can only use the Vista 128FB to *monitor* a fire alarm
> system (and then you have to provide the proper communicator modules).
>
>
> > Not the
> > place you typically put a wireless receiver.
>
> They don't allow wireless smokes on any job requiring a fire alarm
> system in B.C.
>
>
> > Over time you get used to
> > seeing only those two choices, especially when the other Vista panels
don't
> > support wireless on 1-8. However it is true those other Vista models you
> > mention do support RF on 1-8, just not all Vista models do.
>
> Which is basically what I was trying to point out when I stated "on most
> of the new Vista products you can configure any zone as RF".  As it
> happens more of the Vista products support it than don't.
>
>
> > Why would you pick Vista for large jobs? Don't you get frustrated by the
> > 128ma limit on the polling loop?  Having to put in those goofy boosters
(that
> > often don't help).
>
> On the larger jobs we've done this hasn't been an issue.
>
>
> > Parsing out the silly relay schema does bug you?
>
> Nope.  It doesn't bug me.  In fact, it defines the panel as something
> "above" what most DIYer's (and some installer's) are capable of
> handling.  I do have to admit that most DIYer's would probably opt for
> an ELK M1Gold when they're getting into this level of sophistication
> (home automation particularly).  ELK's a lot easier to program (even
> from the keypad).
>
>
> > Not even
> > Honeywell seems to like the 250. They always warn you about the max zone
> > limit being well below 250 zones. Have you ever put over 150 zones on a
250?
>
> Yes, I have.
>
>
> > It can take 7 seconds or longer just to recognize a zone trip.
>
> What wire did you use?
>
>
> > Most times I
> > see them on truck slammer fire alarm installations in an apartment
complex
> > (because it's the cheapest solution and easy to get). You wouldn't do
that
> > to your customers, would you? Tell me you use a real fire panel for fire
> > jobs.
>
> In Canada, you have to use a dedicated fire alarm panel.  Recognized
> manufacturers are:  GE, Siemens, Mirtone, Mircom, Edwards (EST),
> Secutron, Simplex, Notifier, and FireLite (to name a few).  I wouldn't
> be able to use a burg/fire panel like the Ademco Vista 128FB for
> anything other than to *monitor* a "proper" fire alarm panel.