Re: Selecting a remote surv system

["Robert L Bass" <robertbass1@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Prices are starting to improve on a lot of pro quality CCTV gear.  A reliable 4-channel system can be had for well under $2,000.
For example, Speco Technologies makes a model DVR-4CF/120 4-camera, Internet ready DRV that's pretty decent.  It comes with a 120
gig hard drive.  They retail for around $730.  Good quality color cameras can be had for less than $200 apiece.
For example, the Nuvico camera you mentioned retails for under $280.  They also have a NVCC-HWE49N-D camera with a 4-9mm varifocal
lens that sells for less than $175.  It's a "bullet" style outdoor camera like the one you spoke of so no housing is required.  I've
tried a number of Nuvico cameras and they do a good job.  Speco has made improvements to their line over the last five or six
years -- much better than their old stuff.

Those are retail prices.  I got the impression that the OP is in the trade.  If so he can get the same for less from his
distributor.  There are a number of other CCTV manufacturers around that are beginning to give Pelco, Sony and the rest serious
competition at lower prices.  One of the fringe benefits of this is that the big players are starting to be more flexible about
pricing.  We're getting Sony, Pelco and several other majors at better prices than before.  OTOH, we get a better bang/buck ratio
selling Nuvico, Speco and a few other lines.

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"I use solid wire" <solidwire@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:gtctq2p8arq72ht9pj1kld1njtugp21cv1@xxxxxxxxxx
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:00:46 -0500, "John" <John-hates-spam!> wrote:
>
>>We're trying to get a 4 or 5 channel remote system for under $2500. The
>>inside of the deli has rooms roughly 10'x10', 12'x10', 15'x10', and a camera
>>at the back door where the dumpster is about 20' away. The rooms are lit by
>>regular incandescent lighting. No storage requirement is needed at this
>>time. A POS interface is not required at this time. The only things I would
>>see expanding in the future are the storage and POS interface. I hope that
>>covers it. BTW, thank you for your time and help.
>
> DVR's inputs are sold in multiples of 4 usually, so you'll need an 8
> channel DVR for 5 cams.  The brand I recommend for a budget conscious
> customer is Nuvico.  It has an embedded Linux OS so you won't need to
> deal with security issues like you would with a Windows based machine.
> It comes with free dynamic dns service, which will help when the DSL
> IP changes.  It has support for POS should you decide to add it later,
> you can also upgrade the HD yourself if need be.
>
> Here is one for $1400
> http://www.123securityproducts.com/nv8chdvlidi.html
>
> Specs are here:
> http://www.nuvico.com/upload/doc/DV3%20Series%20DVR.pdf
>
>
> The camera selection consists of four major things:
> 1> housing
> 2> lens
> 2> lighting
> 4> resolution
>
> The housings for cams can be had in bullet, dome, box, and covert
> (hidden in smoke detectors, clocks, thermostats etc..).  If all the
> cams are going to be inside then the housing will be more of a
> aesthetic choice more than a functional one.
>
> The lens choice is basically choosing the focal length in millimeters.
> A wide angle lens is 4mm where a 9mm lens will be a much tighter shot.
> So you plan your shots ahead of time based on where the cam is to be
> mounted.  For instance, a cam right over the cash register may use a
> 8mm lens to get a close up of the bills, while a cam in the dining
> room may have a 4mm lens to get an overview of the whole room.  If you
> want the greatest flexibility I'd recommend buying cams with
> vari-focal lenses as opposed to fixed, so you can adjust them as
> needed.
> Here is a bullet cam with a 3.8~9.5mm Lens:
> http://www.nuvico.com/product_detail.asp?strCategoryCD=CC001&strModel=&prod_cd=NP0041&Page=3
>
>
> Lighting is very important.  Since the fluorescent's are going to be
> on, that is good.  Just don't point the cams right at a light or a
> window with direct sunlight.  If you are only concerned with
> monitoring the store during operating hours (while the lights are on),
> a standard camera will suffice.  If you want them to 'see' in the dark
> get 'day/night' cameras.  They have a photocell in them that detects
> low light and turns on IR's then switches to black and white mode.
> Don't believe any manufacturer when they list an IR range, for
> instance, the link above lists IR range of 100' -- the useful range is
> more like half that.
>
>
> The camera's resoulution is measured in TV lines.  The higher the
> better.
>
> --
>
> -G