Re: Uplink Network/Line costs?

["Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx>]

Too bad this group doesn't have a real FAQ.  I think this post would be a
good one to archive for general information.  (Updated in the future as
things change.)

"jc" <jobs@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Dec 2, 10:47 am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> You then go to an alarm dealer that has an account with Uplink.
>>
>> If you are an alarm dealer you open an account with Uplink and pay them a
>> monthly fee, in addition to your CS charges, then you charge your client
>> a
>> monthly fee based upon your CS cost + your Uplink cost.
>>
>> --
>> **Crash Gordon**
>
>
> Oh okay. The alarm dealer charges a premium because he's having to
> cover the uplink line. The uplink account enables uplink harwdare to
> communicate through them (like a network) to the CS.
>
> Possible or worth it to try to communicate through normal cell
> service?

No.  Not with the disappearance of analog.  Maybe some time in the future.

> If there were a way to communicate through an existing cell
> line (already in  use on existing cell phone) that would be nice. But
> clearly that's not going to be legal or easy as SIM cards should
> restrict that.

Nothing illegal about it.  I used to use an analog unit by Stealth Labs that
integrated a standard Motorola cellular mobile (car phone unit) with a
propritary daughter board for cell backup.  You could subscribe through
Stealth Labs or use it as a family share phone on another cell provider
plan.  It programmed with a standard Motorola Cell Phone Handset.

If you were thinking that you could take your hand held cell phone and plug
it into your alarm panel then its really is not practical, although there
are some docking stations for some that might make it remotely possible.  I
have no experience with any of them, and I would suspect that the alarm
panel would be looking for better signal quality than is typically provided
by cellular voice service.

Uplink, Telguard, and many others work by translating the signals and
information from the alarm panel into a form that can be transmitted over
the digital control channels of the digital cellular network, and sending it
their signal processing center.  At that location it is converted back to
standard alarm type signals and retransmitted over the telephone network to
the central station.  They pay airtime to the cellular providers, they paid
to build their processing center, and they have to pay their employees.
They pass that cost onto the alarm dealer selling their units and service
along with a relatively modest profit per unit.  The alarm dealer then
installs the unit in your premise, activates it, and tests it.  They then
bill you for installation and monthly service.  I don't know what other
dealers charge for this, but we don't charge much more per month than the
price of an extra line on a family share plan from your cell provider.
(unless you have a lot of signal traffic over the cell service)

Quit looking for back doors with your security and do it right.  Even if you
do it yourself there are some things that are "the best way" to do it.  In
this case a cellular data channel or data burst unit designed to go between
your phone line and your alarm panel is the "right way" to do it.   I
personally have had better luck with Telguard units, but Uplink is much
cheaper for the hardware.

Another other options might be to place an IP reporting module between the
alarm panel and the POTS line.  (POTS - Plain old telephone service)  It is
less reliable than cellular IMO, but better than nothing.  One advanatage is
that it is often no additional cost if your central station is already setup
for that particular IP reporting type of hardware.

For reliability under normal circumstances and my experience and knowledge
indicates them in this order.  There are other services that may be
available and this is a general description, but for the average residential
customer I believe this to be the best array of options and order of
reliability.

POTS
Private Radio Network
Cellular
IP Network Module

Digital Phone (Not reliable)
VOIP (Not Reliable)

I mention the last two because some people in this group have claimed to
have some success with these in some circumstances.   I list digital phone
seperate from VOIP as there are service provides who provide a non-VOIP type
digital phone service paired with other services such as cable.


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