Re: Quality Ademco Engineering

["Roland" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>Do you want them to also include a note that the 6160
>doesn't work with a 342R

You mean it? I always thought it was a 6 volt verus 12 volt thing. I was
looking forward to the 6 volt 6160 model coming out so I could install it on
my 342R-50. I am crushed.

"Robert L Bass" <no-sales-spam@bassburglaralarms> wrote in message
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> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Robert L. Bas wrote:
>>
>>>The information is there.  Each of the
>>>compatible devices is a clickable link.
>>>Here's what you get when you click on
>>>6160.
>>
>> When something is listed as compatible,
>> I shouldn't have to click on a link to find
>> out that it is not compatible...
>
> It would be better if it said "Compatible
> with some versions, click for details."
> Also, Honeywell's site would be better
> IMO if they used standard colors and
> underlines for links. On some pages links
> are red.  On others they are gray.  The
> site doesn't work with FireFox.
> Nevertheless, the gentleman is correct
> in saying that the information is there
> for the viewing.
>
>> Claiming that Honeywell disclosed
>> this incompatibility is like claiming Bush
>> disclosed something to Congress
>> because it's mentioned on page 1347
>> of the federal budget.  In a footnote.
>
> That's an unfair comparison.  Bush can't
> read and he thinks a footnote is something
> your friends write on your toes in magic
> marker ink after you pass out drunk.
>
>> The instruction sheet for the 6160 feels
>> it's important to tell people that permanent
>> backlighting is an option on some controls,
>> but it doesn't feel it's important to mention
>> that the fricking keypad doesn't even work
>> on some panels.  You tell me which is
>> more important information...
>
> The instruction sheet is intended for use with
> current production controls.  Do you want
> them to also include a note that the 6160
> doesn't work with a 342R?
>
>>> Newer models of this keypad, as of 2004,
>>> may not be compatible. They will give the
>>> correct status display, but will not send
>>> commands to the panel. If replacing or
>>> adding a new keypad, use a different model
>>> keypad that is compatible, or it may be an
>>> option to upgrade the control.
>>
>> Use a different model keypad?  Like what,
>> exactly?
>
> The note was posted before the 6139 was
> discontinued.
>
>> And notice how earlier models of
>> this keypad apparently were compatible,
>> only they removed the compatibility.
>
> They didn't "remove" the compatibility.  The
> 6160 was built for newer control panels.
> It was incidentally compatible with some
> of the older models but those were not it's
> target systems.  They can't be expected
> to make every new keypad compatible with
> every obsolete control panel.
>
> I'm not saying they're perfect.  But the
> accusation that they don't provide the data
> was wrong.  The fallback position implying
> that it's obscured behind tons of other data
> is not a fair characterization.  After all, if
> even a lowly "parts pusher" could find it in
> a single click surely a man of your stature
> should have noticed that the model is a
> clickable link and then followed it to learn
> the whole story.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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