Re: Quality Ademco Engineering

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

that's one of the many things i like abt dmp...all backwards compatable.



"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > Mark Leuck wrote:
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| > >As far as I know the XMP wouldn't work with either 6139 or 6160 anyway.
| And
| > >I don't consider that much of an oops when the vast majority of the
later
| > >stuff will, I've run into maybe 1 XMPT2's in my life.
| >
| > The 4140XMPT2 was the predecessor of the Vista 50.  There are lots of
them
| > in the field.  From what J. Barnes says, the 6160 doesn't work with the
| > Vista 50 either.  They work fine with a 6139.
| >
| > The 6139 keypads work fine with the 4140XMP panels.  They also work with
| > the Vista 40.  I'm guessing neither one works with the 6160.
| >
| > I have two complaints here.  First, backward compatibility is a pretty
| > obvious thing to do.  But my main bitch is, none of these problems are
| > mentioned in the instructions.  You don't find out about them until it's
| > time to replace a keypad, and then, oh shit, they gave me a bad keypad.
| Oh
| > no they idn't, the keypad is fine.
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| Yes but how far back do you go? Neither of those keypads will work on say
a
| 4110XM/DL or a 4140XMP. Your scenario isn't going to happen very often and
| while it isn't a good thing when it does it's likely better to replace the
| panel anyway
|
| >
| > Make that three complaints.  The fine engineering staff at Ademco still
| > hasn't figured out a way to copy a program from an older panel type to a
| > newer panel type.  So when you have to replace that bad keypad with a
| 6160,
| > you find that means you get to replace the panel too, and you have to
| > program the new panel from scratch.   None of the program information
from
| > that XMPT2 can be copied to the new Vista 50P you have to install, even
| > though the programs are very similar.
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| True but it's not that hard to save and print the old info out and
download
| it into the new panel
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| > How to waste an entire day on what was supposed to be replacing a bad
| > keypad.
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| That I can't argue with
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