Re: Quality Ademco Engineering

["Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Mark Leuck wrote:
>
> >As far as I know the XMP wouldn't work with either 6139 or 6160 anyway.
And
> >I don't consider that much of an oops when the vast majority of the later
> >stuff will, I've run into maybe 1 XMPT2's in my life.
>
> The 4140XMPT2 was the predecessor of the Vista 50.  There are lots of them
> in the field.  From what J. Barnes says, the 6160 doesn't work with the
> Vista 50 either.  They work fine with a 6139.
>
> The 6139 keypads work fine with the 4140XMP panels.  They also work with
> the Vista 40.  I'm guessing neither one works with the 6160.
>
> I have two complaints here.  First, backward compatibility is a pretty
> obvious thing to do.  But my main bitch is, none of these problems are
> mentioned in the instructions.  You don't find out about them until it's
> time to replace a keypad, and then, oh shit, they gave me a bad keypad.
Oh
> no they idn't, the keypad is fine.

Yes but how far back do you go? Neither of those keypads will work on say a
4110XM/DL or a 4140XMP. Your scenario isn't going to happen very often and
while it isn't a good thing when it does it's likely better to replace the
panel anyway

>
> Make that three complaints.  The fine engineering staff at Ademco still
> hasn't figured out a way to copy a program from an older panel type to a
> newer panel type.  So when you have to replace that bad keypad with a
6160,
> you find that means you get to replace the panel too, and you have to
> program the new panel from scratch.   None of the program information from
> that XMPT2 can be copied to the new Vista 50P you have to install, even
> though the programs are very similar.

True but it's not that hard to save and print the old info out and download
it into the new panel


> How to waste an entire day on what was supposed to be replacing a bad
> keypad.

That I can't argue with