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Re: http://www.instantunlocker.com/
Yes, and this assumes the unit doesn't smoke the panel when it applies
voltage in a way the panel was never designed to handle. By way of
learning how to properly unlock boards, I also spent a lot of time
learning their design. There is NO way to unlock any board this way
without applying some measure of power to the chips on board. In my
biased opinion, this would make any board unlocked this way suspect for
future use.
But then Jim and I are obviously biased. We unlock boards the CORRECT
way. This gizmo strikes me as just another example of someone trying to
take the quick and dirty way out (aren't there enough people in our
industry already who take this approach...)
Oh, well, we shall see....
RHC
Doug L wrote:
> If it costs $25 and five minutes labour to unlock a board versus $50 and 30
> minutes to replace a board, I would consider it a worthwhile investment if
> you are in the business of taking over a lot of systems that are locked out.
>
> Doug
>
> --
>
> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1157082090.892658.125800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > With boards costing as little as $50, how can this possibly give you
> > your money's worth the first time out...or the tenth time out for that
> > matter. As Jim says, he has spent significant money for the equipment
> > necessary to do most any board made. I too have spent thousands of
> > dollars to do just DSC and Paradox, and probably Ademco if I cared to
> > spend the time. It is not as easy as plugging in a gizmo and setting
> > the board's installer code back. If it were that simple, I would buy
> > the thing myself !! A great many of the boards that I unlock have been
> > sabotaged by an irate installer, with the panel locked, and the board
> > in alarm, so this device won't do the job. And the boards that are
> > actually the most valuable to unlock are the older DSC boards that are
> > no longer available (1550, 2550, 3000)
> >
> > Since it is only available to professionals in the trade, it does
> > nothing for the many end users who buy a home and find they have a
> > locked board. And since most alarmco's don't want to bother with any
> > alarm that isn't monitored, that still leaves many people out.
> >
> > However, to give credit where credit is due (or may be due), it will be
> > worth watching to see if this gizmo catches on, or is simply a one shot
> > wonder..
> >
> > I too very much agree with the poster who is amazed that any one would
> > take the time to develop a product with such a limited vertical market
> >
> > RHC
> >
> > A.J. wrote:
> >> It will probably work 99% of the time and considering you don't have to
> >> replace the board, just the first time you use it you are already getting
> >> the money worth. Too bad it only works on DSC Power Series and Ademco
> >> Vista
> >> series currently.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:1157065516.730447.211360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Jim, assuming this rig actually does work, what does it end up costing
> >> > the user per alarm board to be unlocked. I can't find any prices. I
> >> > notice this comes from area code 905 which is around the Toronto area.
> >> > Knowing what you and I know about this subject, this device makes me
> >> > wonder if it may even be a scam. I wonder if it works if the panel was
> >> > left in alarm state when it was taken out of service; with DSC and
> >> > Paradox at least, you cannot enter programming mode via the installer
> >> > code unless the board has first been disarmed. So simply knowing the
> >> > installer code will do mothing in a lot of cases (meanwhile, you've
> >> > just been charged something....)
> >> >
> >> > R.H.Campbell
> >> > Home Security Metal Products
> >> > www.homemetal.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jim Rojas wrote:
> >> >> All the product does is change the installer code. If the panel does
> >> >> indeed have a download lockout, or local programming disabled, this
> >> >> product is totally useless.
> >> >>
> >> >> This product makes my unlock services look like a Walmart special...
> >> >> :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim Rojas
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "A.J." <aj@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:OCIJg.487010$Mn5.312285@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> This is pretty amazing, somebody actually spent the money and have
> >> >> an
> >> >> unlock device manufactured for such a narrow vertical market.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "George Siegle" <gsiegle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:OzHJg.1709$0k7.467@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> http://www.instantunlocker.com/
> >> >> ------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01C6CD26.239A3D80
> >> >> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >> >> X-Google-AttachSize: 2106
> >> >>
> >> >> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> >> <HTML><HEAD>
> >> >> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> >> >> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR>
> >> >> <STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >> </HEAD>
> >> >> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All the product does is change the
> >> >> installer
> >> >> code.
> >> >> If the panel does indeed have a download lockout, or local programming
> >> >> disabled,
> >> >> this product is totally useless. </FONT></DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This product makes my unlock services
> >> >> look
> >> >> like a
> >> >> Walmart special... :)</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Rojas</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
> >> >> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> >> >> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> <DIV>"A.J." <<A href="mailto:aj@xxxxxxxx";>aj@xxxxxxxx</A>>
> >> >> wrote
> >> >> in
> >> >> message <A
> >> >>
> >> >> href="news:OCIJg.487010$Mn5.312285@pd7tw3no";>news:OCIJg.487010$Mn5.312285@pd7tw3no</A>...</DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is pretty amazing, somebody
> >> >> actually spent the money and have an unlock device
> >> >> manufactured
> >> >> for such a narrow vertical market.</FONT></DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
> >> >> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> >> >> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> >> <DIV>"George Siegle" <<A
> >> >> href="mailto:gsiegle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>gsiegle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>>
> >> >> wrote in
> >> >> message <A
> >> >>
> >> >> href="news:OzHJg.1709$0k7.467@clgrps13";>news:OzHJg.1709$0k7.467@clgrps13</A>...</DIV>
> >> >> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
> >> >>
> >> >> href="http://www.instantunlocker.com/";>http://www.instantunlocker.com/</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01C6CD26.239A3D80--
> >> >
> >
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