Re: Power Supply

[Mike Sokoly <secure15@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bob Worthy wrote:
> "Mr.Double-sided tape" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>>Why would he bother himself with knowledge when his good ole boys
>>network appointment to that position only calls for him to make shit up
>>as he goes along?
>>Think about this, you're licensed to install fire, as well as certified
>>to teach fire installers, but your certifications mean diddly dick . How
>
> screwy is that?
>
> No one realizes what is coming on the next NFPA 72 rewrite (2006). From what
> I understand, everyone that installs and/or services fire alarm systems will
> be required to be a listed installation company by either UL or FM. This
> will include electrical contactors that install fire, as well. If you think
> this is BS, they (UL) and the fire marshalls are testing the waters in
> Florida right now. There are local ordinances and AHJ policies in place,
> already, requiring that you be a UL or FM listed company even to submit an
> application for a permit even though your are state licensed. The reason
> they can do this is because there is something about [if they know it is
> coming out in the code they can adopt it prior to]. They are putting
> themselves into and infront of any of the existing licensing laws. At that
> point, your license/certification will be truely worth diddly dick unless
> you spend mega bucks initially and annually thereafter for additional
> certifications. There are five counties and nine cities that are on board
> with this in Florida. Even though the state has adopted 72, in its entirety,
> these cities/counties have thrown out remote station, aux, and proprietary
> systems. You can only install central station service and you must be a
> listed contractor, even though you are state licensed. You can have all the
> credentials in the world and the only ones that will count is either UL or
> FM. One city went as far as to even exclude FM and will only except UL. One
> county has a policy that, every structure over 5,000 square feet must have a
> central station service system installed and you must be a listed company
> just to apply for the permit. Also, the next rewrite of NFPA, again from my
> understanding, contains the 730 and 731 burglar code language. That will
> mean, if the next version of 72 is adopted by your state, automatically so
> will 730 and 731. Everyone should be watching and educating your
> legistators, or who ever, on what is coming down the pike and to not let
> state law be trumped by code. After it is adopted, it will be to late for
> any whining and crying. They have found a way to slip in their personal
> agendas into a national code which is adopted without question. UL is giving
> seminars to the AHJs right now to educate them that is the way to go. The
> industry, on the other hand, is doing nothing, but what's new. I promise not
> to get on my soapbox about this issue but remember what I said when it comes
> to a city near you.
>
>
Whew Bob what a load of crap!
I did see and read your previous post on the matter and agree- get to em
before its too late!