Re: Power Supply

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Mr.Double-sided tape" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1142530835.672775.118500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Why would he bother himself with knowledge when his good ole boys
> network appointment to that position only calls for him to make shit up
> as he goes along?
> Think about this, you're licensed to install fire, as well as certified
> to teach fire installers, but your certifications mean diddly dick . How
screwy is that?

No one realizes what is coming on the next NFPA 72 rewrite (2006). From what
I understand, everyone that installs and/or services fire alarm systems will
be required to be a listed installation company by either UL or FM. This
will include electrical contactors that install fire, as well. If you think
this is BS, they (UL) and the fire marshalls are testing the waters in
Florida right now. There are local ordinances and AHJ policies in place,
already, requiring that you be a UL or FM listed company even to submit an
application for a permit even though your are state licensed. The reason
they can do this is because there is something about [if they know it is
coming out in the code they can adopt it prior to]. They are putting
themselves into and infront of any of the existing licensing laws. At that
point, your license/certification will be truely worth diddly dick unless
you spend mega bucks initially and annually thereafter for additional
certifications. There are five counties and nine cities that are on board
with this in Florida. Even though the state has adopted 72, in its entirety,
these cities/counties have thrown out remote station, aux, and proprietary
systems. You can only install central station service and you must be a
listed contractor, even though you are state licensed. You can have all the
credentials in the world and the only ones that will count is either UL or
FM. One city went as far as to even exclude FM and will only except UL. One
county has a policy that, every structure over 5,000 square feet must have a
central station service system installed and you must be a listed company
just to apply for the permit. Also, the next rewrite of NFPA, again from my
understanding, contains the 730 and 731 burglar code language. That will
mean, if the next version of 72 is adopted by your state, automatically so
will 730 and 731. Everyone should be watching and educating your
legistators, or who ever, on what is coming down the pike and to not let
state law be trumped by code. After it is adopted, it will be to late for
any whining and crying. They have found a way to slip in their personal
agendas into a national code which is adopted without question. UL is giving
seminars to the AHJs right now to educate them that is the way to go. The
industry, on the other hand, is doing nothing, but what's new. I promise not
to get on my soapbox about this issue but remember what I said when it comes
to a city near you.