Re: Napco MA3000 - Dialer Test on both Lines?

["Doug L" <vssdoug@xxxxxxx>]

The issue, in case you've forgotten is whether your suggestion of using a
relay output to interrupt the primary phone line to a commercial fire alarm
in order to generate a required transmission on the secondary channel meets
code or even if its a good idea, it doesn't and it isn't - end of story.

So you can wax lyrical till the cows come home about knowledge of the panel,
your installations, imaginary attacks on you, flames, hatred, spewing trash,
animosity or anything else you want, the simple fact is that once again
you've shown a pitiful lack of knowledge on code issues and as is your way
you attempt to defect that by introducing red herrings and accusing others
of flaming and hatred, while at the same time flaming away yourself, to what
purpose? to try and twist the thread away from your faux pas.



Doug L
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"Robert L Bass" <roberbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> I don't know the panel, hence the use of
>> the word " If "...
>
> And yet you immediately attacked.  This simply shows your intention is not
> to share information but only to flame.
>
>> I do know the code and I know your suggestion
>> is a violation, pure and simple...
>
> Code requires that the hardware used be listed for the purpose.  You don't
> know the panel.  I do.  You've never worked with it.  I have installed
> many of them and serviced them for years.  In short, you spoke (and
> continue to do so) without knowledge or understanding.  Feel free to
> continue flaming away.
>
>> its also pure bullshit on your part that you
>> have used this technique on Commercial Fire
>> and  had an inspector sign off on it...
>
> You've never seen any of my installations and you have no idea what the
> panel is capable of.  You ought to know (though there is room for doubt
> about that) that the code says the AHJ (inspector) determines what is or
> is not compliant.
>
>> after all since you know the panel so well and state that it does support
>> the
>> requirement, why would you need to bodge it in this manner...
>
> You call it a bodge only because you don't know the method or the
> hardware. In fact, the technique uses listed devices and programming.
> Your problem isn't with what I do or how I do it.  You post only because
> of personal animosity.  This is nothing new.  You've done it before and I
> expect nothing honest or reasonable out of you.
>
>> so stop bullshitting and trying to make yourself look important...
>
> Important?  I only shared a technique that works and has passed muster
> with inspectors.  The topic (in case you've forgotten) is about testing
> both phone lines on a Napco MA3000.  It's not about your personal hatred.
> It's a shame that no thread can exist on this newsgroup without being
> filled with the kind of trash you spew.
>
>> I also know that if you knew the panel as well
>> as you would have everyone believe, then you
>> would have told Alan the correct way to generate
>> the required test on the secondary communication
>> channel...
>
> I already did.  He seemed to understand it right away.  What I didn't do
> is create an image for him.  I'm not spending a lot of time at my desk
> these days because I'm recovering from cancer surgery.  When I get around
> to it I'll send him an image if he wants it though.
>
>> On another subject, I hope the chemo goes well for you.
>
> I plan to beat the cancer.  I've overcome adversity before.  This one just
> hurts a lot more.  Unlike some who post here, I wouldn't wish this on
> anyone.  Fortunately, I have a very strong family and close network of
> friends helping me and pulling for me every step of the way.  I hope you
> never have to go through this stuff.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass