Re: DIY is a rocky road.

["Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Crash,

You're right, Napco is hard to program... But, it will do just about
anything I want it to, and the price is reasonable... I'd like to try DMP,
but they don't sell to the little guy here in Northern CA, you have to be a
Big Co....

Regards,
Russ

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4PMAf.106$Ap5.10486@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Ademco is not a large percentage of my installs...and ya know I've never
> really had problems with their stuff..at least the few models that I do
> use.
>
> But having said that...at least Ademco stuff easier to program than
> NappyKO
> :-)
>
> As far as programming goes though, nothing beats DMP for ease of
> programming...sheesh it's like using an ATM machine just answer questions
> in
> english. Panel of choice for this AARP installer.
>
>
> "Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:39EAf.4606$Hd4.3835@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | That's what you get for installing Ademcrap..... :-)) hee hee
> |
> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:RcDAf.1280$CC1.9697@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >I agree. I've been doing this stuff for almost 25 years and sometimes I
> | >have
> | > to read the manual over and over again...and then STILL have to call
> tech
> | > support --- who speak with a decidely off-shore accent. Its
> frustrating
> at
> | > times, but its good when you get it right.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Charles Schuler" <charleschuler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:HqGdnd_lSslXUk_enZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > |
> | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | > | > Yep they do, and you have to speak Alarmish, a sub-dialect of
> 'Glish.
> | > | > They're not written for DIYers.
> | > |
> | > | They are not written for anybody who knows how to read and also
> trusts
> | > what
> | > | they read:
> | > |
> | > | Installer code
> | > | User code
> | > | Default code
> | > | Master code
> | > |
> | > | In the manuals that I am trying to read, all of the above appear
> with
> no
> | > | definitions and are obviously used inappropriately, in some cases.
> | > Trying
> | > | to program something as simple as time and date becomes a
> mind-bending
> | > | experience.  Not because it needs to be ... it's because the hacks
> who
> | > wrote
> | > | the manuals don't themselves understand the terms that they are
> using,
> | > or
> | > | perhaps are semi-clever agents dedicated to the demise of DIYs.
> | > |
> | > | I used to think this sort of thing was only endemic among offshore
> | > products
> | > | designed and built by other than English speaking engineers.  Now, I
> | > have
> | > a
> | > | whole new perspective on this issue.
> | > |
> | > | I know, I know ... this "stuff" is intended for professional
> installers
> | > and
> | > | they just enjoy the hell out of DIYs hanging out here, twisting in
> the
> | > wind.
> | > | My tenacity will prevail, in any case.
> | > |
> | > | Maybe I'll put up a website and further illuminate this extremely
> dark
> | > | corridor of consumer electronics in the good ole yew ess of aay.
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
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