Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Roland" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe the ADT guys didn't follow instructions. I am not certain what you are
calling the differences in pet "immunity" technology, but immunity is the
word Bosch is using.
http://www.boschsecurity.us/pdf/EN/39681J%20DS835i-DS835iT%20Inguide.PDF


"Frank Olson" <Use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:o6kkh.532472$R63.261996@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> aworkinprogress2112@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Happy Holidays all!
>>
>> Thanks to Crash Gordon, Tourman and Frank Olson for your assistance.
>> I've been checking your responses from time to time over the past few
>> days and now that the big holiday is behind me I'm going to put some
>> time into trying to get this resolved.
>>
>> Here's the deal: The motions are Bosch DS835i Microwave Intrusion
>> Detector with Pet Immunity.  In the room I've had two false alarms from
>> the closest thing to the motion is a couch.  The back of the couch is
>> just 4 1/2 feet from the motion and at the height of the couch, about 3
>> feet from the floor.  In the room I have had one false alarm from the
>> closest thing to the motionis again a couch.  This time the back of the
>> couch is 6 feet from the motion and again 3 feet from the floor.
>
> The units are hard wired.  ADT will have access to the Paradox line
> through several distribution outlets in the US.  Call your account rep and
> tell them you want Paradox DG75's installed at the manufacturer's
> recommended height.  I can't honestly believe a company like ADT still
> think "pet alleys" are the way to go (mounting a motion sensor three feet
> off the floor).  Your false alarms will disappear.
>
>
>>
>> I guess my questions at this point are:
>>
>> 1) Are these distances of 4 1/2 feet and 6 feet too close to warrant
>> trying a less sensitive motion such as those mentioned by Tourman or by
>> Frank Olson?
>
> No.  The Paradox DG75 will work.  They may have to mask the lens to
> prevent it from seeing the couch(es) (or move the sensor to another
> location to increase the distance to the couch).
>
>
>>
>> 2) Does this system have the "double trip feature" Tourman recommended
>> or the "cross-zoning" Crash Gordon mentioned?  My Google research tells
>> me this Safewatch Pro 3000 is really an Ademco Vista 20P in disguise.
>> The double-trip idea sounds like it might reduce false alarms and may
>> be effective when the house is empty but that it might run the risk of
>> missing someone coming in during the night and heading straight up to
>> my bedroom having only tripped the motion once.  I like the idea of the
>> cross-zoning and would be willing to pay to have two additional motions
>> installed, one to work with each of the two 1st floor motions.
>
> If you can, avoid going the cross-zoning route.  In my book, it's the same
> as installing a motion sensor upside down and three feet from the floor.
> What if the perp "stops" long enough for the counter to reset between
> trips?
>
>
>>
>> When I say willing to pay I don't want to sound like someone looking to
>> get something for nothing.  I specifically brought up my concerns about
>> the two cats at the time of installation and the furniture is in the
>> exact same place it was when the system was installed.  I was assured
>> that the placement and the type of motion detector would prevent false
>> alarms so I tend to think they are partly to blame for the situation.
>> I have no complaints about ADT yet, other than the current situation,
>> they have been very accomodating.  I guess their resolving - or not
>> resolving this problem will be the true test.
>
> The Bosch sensors aren't "pet immune".  They're "pet friendly".  Two
> entirely different philosophies.