Re: Florida Statute According to RLB

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"I brive a dus" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Wanna know what I think, Don? No? Great lemme tell you anyway since I
> have nothing better to do.

Ya know Tom, that is exactly what I do when RBL comes off with his holier
than crap attitude

> I think it's time for a new battle cry.

I don't start it and I am guilty of not dropping it. I guess it is time to
keep it all silent.

>Even IF the Florida statues
> decided a license was required, or if they already require it, they
> haven't done diddly dick to prevent him from doing business.

Where did his monitoring ventures go right after the State visited him?
Never mind, he stopped so that is the end of that.

> If such a time comes where the State poses a threat to his online
> venture then he will simply quit accepting orders for a few days while
> he waits for confirmation of his filing as a foreign corporation in a
> state that has no license requirements, through a registered agent. He
> will be up and running just like before but now without having to read
> the license bullshit from people who won't do shit about it.

So then what you are saying is he is not beyond ducking the law the minute
he thinks he might have a problem. Nice! I guess that is the difference
between a parts reseller and a security professional.

> It's just like that fractured fairy tale about him losing his CT
> license for lying on the application.
> He let his license expire. It was never revoked. Did he lie on the app?
> Yes. Did the State do shit about it? No. They looked at his file and
> nothing happened.
> You can add CT to the list of states he can re-open in if Florida ever
> did anything more than talk.

Regardless of the things that go on here, his antics don't equal a pimple on
a knats ass compared to what goes on in this state. Actually the state would
waste a nickel on him. Now if a consumer complained, it would be a different
issue. Sorta like what got the "free" deal shut down. That is why his BBB
report may be more threatening to him than anything in the licensing
statute. Remember the land scams that made Florida famous back in the 60's
and 70's. Backfired though. I wish I would have been scammed back then. That
land turned into being worth millions.

> There are enough reasons for a consumer to question purchasing from him
> (and other online stores as well) but when you start tossing horseshit
> on the pile it all ends up stinking.

No problem. He can run rampant on this group and throw insults at anyone he
chooses on any particular day. It is all kicks and giggles to me anyway. I
can find other sources of amusement.

> You're not someone with first hand experience when it comes to going
> real life with Robert.

I have never went real life on RBL other than posting in this group. I do
find out about things, knowledge is power, but I have never gone beyond
that. I asked questions and people have no problem giving me answers. Not a
bad thing to be able to do.

> I am.  Back and forth on and on it went. While it was a waste of time it
was
> also a source of amusement. Now this place is duller than the Special
Olympics luge event.

Kicks and Giggles. Sorry it is boring. I guess I just have a dry since of
humor.

> When he moved to Florida I called the State to question his unlicensed
> activity (think it was back in either 2000 or 2001). The Florida board
> at that time said there was NOTHING they could do since they didn't
> govern internet businesses,

That is true. Go on the net, find a part to purchase, give a credit card
number, receive it by UPS. No license required. That is absolutely true. So
let me be the first to say it, RBL does not need a license to sell parts
over the internet. There, I have said it. Now, what about the telephone
sales he bragged about, with the hiring of sales people, a while back? It is
not important and I really don't give a rat's ass, but he can not say that,
if he is actually doing this, that he is only doing internet sales, now can
he? Since the law changed in July and dropped the word "on-site", which he
most recently posted as his out, does require a license for telephone sales.
The sales people don't need to be licensed, however they need to be
registered as Burglar Alarm Systems Agents and if they sell fire product
they also need to be Fire Alarm Systems Agents. This requires education,
backgrounds every two years, fingerprints and drug screening. End of story
and I promise to not post it again.

>and they referred me elsewhere.

Where?

> I read the Statute and argued with them about him selling alarms and
> offering downloading and monitoring services from a Florida location.

There were some things RBL was hanging his hat on. The statute is
legislatively looked every year and changed as the times change. If you read
them five years ago, they are not the same. A word change here and there
changes the interpetation.

> They asked if there was any proof that he was selling to Florida
> residents and I had no such proof.

Can't complain without proof. Besides, the state has a hard time with
competitors complaining against other competitors. Whether you are or you
aren't a competitor, the state would look at it that way, especially if you
didn't have proof.

> I was told that if he was selling to Florida residents that it might be
> considered illegal activity (notice the word MIGHT).

Yeah and he tried to squash the sale of monitoring to Florida residents to
stay within the law as far as needing a license to do so. Being in Florida
and entering into contracts for compensation even though the client was
outside of Florida is where the interpetation of the Statute was unclear
between the two State attorneys when RBL was investigated. He decided to
quit altogether AFAIK.

>One certainty is
> Robert is no eligible for a Florida license.

Goes without saying even though he will say if he needed one he would go get
one. Of course I would say he can't and he would call me a worthless liar,
blah blah blah.

> 6 years later there is still no concrete interpretation of the statutes
> because if there was, and if Robert was proven to be operating
> illegally, then these threads would have ceased years ago and Robert
> would be selling DIY Handjob kits or left handed monkey wrenches or
> seats to the standing army.

Actually, it is more like they really don't give a crap about his antics. He
is to small of a fish to fry. I know that. Why do you think, with all my
quoteing statute do you think I have never filed a complaint?
He is so easy, if I wanted to I could get any proof I needed. A vendictive
person, which I am not, could get to him because his ego puts him at danger
of being set up. I am not going to waste the States time and money. I gotta
work with these people and regardless of what RBL thinks, I do have a good
reputation with these folks. I just like giving him high blood pressure
about his dealings when he knows I am right. Do you think he is stupid
enough to admit publically that he is wrong?

> Now since none of us know the first thing about litigation, and since
> Robert can do a hocus pocus and reappear in another state without
> leaving his EZ chair, why not just find something new to pick at him
> about?

We could start on the County Revenue Department or Florida sales tax audits,
but that might be to boring as well. Wouldn't want to be accused of going
real life either.

Bottom line is that what ever RBL posts does not in anyway shape or form
effect me. He simply doesn't like that I use his shortcomings for my own
amusement. He throws out his childish insults, which are redundant, as he
has used them all on OP going back to when I was just lurking around here.
So, sorry to have bored you. Have a Happy New Year.