Re: Florida Statute According to RLB

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Don" <don@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > To answer your question from the "free estimate" thread, you have not
> > posted
> > the part of the statute that pertains to why you think you are exempt
from
> > your extra curricular business activities which are above and beyond
> > internet sales.
> >
> >
>
> PART II
>
> ELECTRICAL AND ALARM SYSTEM
> CONTRACTING
>
> 489.503  Exemptions.--This part does not apply to:
>
> (5)  The sale or installation of any finished products, materials, or
> articles of merchandise which are not actually fabricated into, and do not
> become a permanent fixed part of, the structure. This subsection shall not
> be construed to limit the exemptions provided in subsection (6).
>
> SEEMS THAT WHAT RLB IS SELLING DOES BECOME A :FIXED PART OF THE STRUCTURE"
> SO EXEMPTION DOES NOT APPLY.
>
> 489.505  Definitions.--As used in this part:
>
> (2)  "Alarm system contractor" means a person whose business includes the
> execution of contracts requiring the ability, experience, science,
> knowledge, and skill to lay out, fabricate, install, maintain, alter,
> repair, monitor, inspect, replace, or service alarm systems for
> compensation, including, but not limited to, all types of alarm systems
for
> all purposes.
>
> DOES A DIY KNOW HOW TO DO THESE THINGS WITHOUT RLB HELP?
>
> 25)  "Burglar alarm system agent" means a person:
>
> (c)  Whose specific duties include any of the following: altering,
> installing, maintaining, moving, repairing, replacing, servicing, selling,
> or monitoring an intrusion or burglar alarm system for compensation.
>
> NOTE "SELLING" ABOVE AND BELOW
>
> (28)  "Fire alarm system agent" means a person:
>
> c)  Whose specific duties include any of the following: altering,
> installing, maintaining, moving, repairing, replacing, servicing, selling,
> or monitoring a fire alarm system for compensation.
>
> 489.513  Registration; application; requirements.--
>
> (1)  Any person engaged in the business of contracting in the state shall
be
> registered in the proper classification unless he or she is certified. Any
> person desiring to be a registered contractor shall apply to the
department
> for registration and must:
>
> 489.518  Alarm system agents.--
>
> (1)  A licensed electrical or alarm system contractor may not employ a
> person to perform the duties of a burglar alarm system agent unless the
> person:
>
> b)  Has successfully completed a minimum of 14 hours of training, to
include
> basic alarm system electronics in addition to related training including
> CCTV and access control training, with at least 2 hours of training in the
> prevention of false alarms. Such training shall be from a board-approved
> provider, and the employee or applicant for employment shall provide proof
> of successful completion to the licensed employer. The board shall by rule
> establish criteria for the approval of training courses and providers and
> may by rule establish criteria for accepting alternative nonclassroom
> education on an hour-for-hour basis. The board shall approve providers
that
> conduct training in other than the English language. The board shall
> establish a fee for the approval of training providers or courses, not to
> exceed $60. Qualified employers may conduct training classes for their
> employees, with board approval.
>
> 489.5185  Fire alarm system agents.--
>
> (b)  Has successfully completed a minimum of 14 hours of initial training,
> to include basic fire alarm system technology in addition to related
> training in National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) codes and
standards
> and access control training, with at least 2 hours of training in the
> prevention of false alarms. Such training must be from a board-approved
> provider, and the employee or applicant for employment must provide proof
of
> successful completion to the licensed employer. The board, by rule, shall
> establish criteria for the approval of training courses and providers. The
> board shall approve qualified providers that conduct training in other
than
> the English language. The board shall establish a fee for the approval of
> training providers, not to exceed $200, and a fee for the approval of
> courses at $25 per credit hour, not to exceed $100 per course.
>
> 489.531  Prohibitions; penalties.--
>
> (1)  A person may not:
>
> (a)  Practice contracting unless the person is certified or registered;
>
> (f)  Knowingly give false or forged evidence to the department, the board,
> or a member thereof;
>
> h)  Conceal information relative to violations of this part;
>
> j)  Willfully or deliberately disregard or violate any municipal or county
> ordinance relating to uncertified or unregistered contractors.
>
> THEN THERE IS THE PART ABOUT POSTING YOU LICENSE NUMBER ON YOUR WEBSITE.
> AND WHAT ABOUT THE PART ABOUT NOT COMPLETING CONTRACTS PAID FOR?  SOME OF
> THOSE BBB COMPLAINTS COULD BE CONSTRUED AS UNFINISHED CONTRACTS.
>
> Am I close Bob?

You understand it, I understand it, they good folks in Florida, that have to
live by it, understand it and then there are those that understand it but
choose to ignore it. They just know they can't admit it. Email me.