Re: The problems with X10 ...

[Joerg <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

accidental plumber wrote:

> That grandfather won't dream about that everything will be made in his
> country, all cheap.  Good depends on how you design it.
>

Amen! After fixing some X10 modules I was about ready to grab one of the
design engineers and shake them real good ;-)


> Nowadays chip makers and Chinese factories are only interested in mass
> consumer market to make lots of money.  Zwave and Zeebee are all
> designed to skip the middleman.  Buy it, plug it in, screw it in.  So
> it doesn't matter what is good and what's not to those guys depending
> on automation for a living.
>

Without the big box HW stores I don't think it would have a chance, at
least not in the US.


> As for DIY'ers, Zeebee only have big development modules at the moment.
>  The other day I looked at the Zwave controllers and remotes on Lowes;
> it horrified me.  From the pictures online I didn't know that they are
> so fcking BIG.  My wife wouldn't approve it.  The central panel looked
> like a cheap plastic toy rather than a Ultra Mobile PC. ...


Thanks for mentioning Lowes. Have to look next time I am there. HD is
closer so it has been a while.


> ... But X10 actually have some wafer thin remotes.
>

The keychain remotes? Those aren't very good IMHO. Flimsy and drifty.
The white 16-button remotes are pretty good though. I just wish they had
designed them so they only need one AA. I mean, that ain't rocket science.

--
Regards, Joerg

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