Re: Compass Software

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

When my Mustang was new I was going to put in a superchip thingie until I
found out I'd have to remove it if I needed warrantee work done on the car,
then reinstall it after Ford work was done or it would void the warrantee.


"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Joe Lucia" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > I doubt Honeywell cares who has the software since the CSID secures the
| > hardware (if used properly).
|
| Sure they do, they have explicit statements that the software is intended
| for professional dealers
|
| > If I own my alarm system, I expect to be able to Program my alarm
| > sytem.  If software is Required to program it, then the software should
| > be readily available.
|
| No it should not, GM/Ford/Toyota programs the computer chip for your car
but
| they are not under any obligation to provide you with the ability to
| reprogram it, the method to do so does exist however they do not approve
of
| doing it yourself. They cannot control the outcome of your downloading a
| panel nor can they control you downloading someone elses panel therefore
it
| is not for you.
|
| They don't make Compass available for end users although they now have a
| package for end users that will allow changing codes etc but not panel
| programming, it doesn't yet support the 20P
|
| > I put a Vista 20P in with wireless sensors with a non-alpha keypad
| > (keypad is also the wireless receiver).  What I didn't realize until
| > after it was all installed was that  I could not configure the wireless
| > zones without an alphanumeric keypad because of it's Menu-Mode
| > programming.  I HAD to use the software to program my wireless zones
|
| No you didn't, the installation manual clearly states an alpha keypad is
| required which btw will also program the sensors.
|
| > (maybe someone else knows how to do it without the software, but I
| > couldn't find it in the manual).
|
| Let me ask you this, if you cannot find out what is required to program or
| how to program zones in a Honeywell panel after reading the manual why
would
| Honeywell or ANYONE trust you with software?
|
| > For this reason, the software should
| > be available to the user/owner/whoever is programming the panel,
| > regardless of their profession or skill level (if it's your panel, you
| > should be allowed to screw it up, and pay for a service-call afterwards
| > to have a professional fix it).
|
| Again it's clearly noted in the installation manual that an alpha keypad
IS
| required and it goes into great detail how to program sensors and you
| couldn't figure it out therefore its up to Honeywell to make software
| available????
|
|
| > You just don't sell hardware to
| > someone and then tell them they can't have the software to program it
|
| Again not my GM/Ford/Toyota statement.
|
| > or you are going to charge them extra to make-it-work (unless it was
| > known up-front before purchasing the hardware).  Just because you are
| > not an Alarm Professional doesn't mean you can't do it as-good if not
| > better then an Alarm Professional.  I don't have a Computer Sciences or
| > Electronics Degree but know a lot more about computers and electronics
| > then any fresh graduate from DeVry does (which maybe isn't saying much
| > about myself).
|
| Thats okay, DeVry is about 3 miles away from me and I'll bet many of them
| won't know jack about how to work Compass
|
| >
| > Of course, if the software was NOT required to program the panel, then
| > it should be Sold/Given to professionals without necessarily being
| > available to the general public.
|
| It already is, it appears you do not know how to properly keypad program
the
| panel
|
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