Re: Silent Knight Fire Panels

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"Bob La Londe" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Bob La Londe" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Bob La Londe wrote:
>>>> > Are all the standard Silent Knight panels sans communicator?
>>>> >
>>>> > The last one I installed was a 5104B several years ago, and I don't
>>> recall
>>>> > having to add a plug in communicator to it.
>>>> >
>>>> > I recall you had to add-on their atleast temporarily the
>>> keypad/annunciator
>>>> > to program it, but I don't recall having to add a communicator.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Bob,
>>>> 5208, 5207 and the Addressable 5700, 5808 and 5820 have built in 2-line
>>>> DACTS
>>>> 2224, 4224,6324, conventional do not.
>>>> 5104 still has one
>>>> Mike S
>>>
>>> Thanks Mike.  I was checking the Silent Knight website, and under
>>> conventional Fire Panels they don't list the 5104, but when I check ADI'
>>> on-line inventory they show 50 plus of them in stock so I know its still
>>> in
>>> circulation.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Looks like a 5104 and a 5230 will fill the niche for me.
>>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> You seem like a nice guy who wants to do a job the right way.  Why would
>> you want to use a communicator as a fire panel?  That's right, the 5104B
>> is a 6 channel communicator.  It doesn't have any controls.  God help you
>> if you want to hook up signals to it.  How does the fire department or
>> the building personnel tell which zone is in alarm?  Wait for the central
>> station to call?  The keypad is ok for programming but almost useless as
>> an annunicator/control.  We use the 5104B to monitor fire panels.  There
>> is a very good reason Silent Knight's own web site doesn't list it under
>> conventional fire panels.  They list it as a Fire Alarm Communicator.
>> That is what it should be used for.
>>
>> Thanks for letting me vent.  I have seen too many 5104's in warehouses
>> and such, monitoring half a dozen waterflows, tampers, low temps, etc on
>> 1 or 2 zones.
>>
>> Mike Breslin
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>
> So why the heck doesn't SK make a fire panel with a communicator?  They
> price themselves above the market with their piggy back arrangement.
> Their prices look goood until you realize they don't come with a
> communicator.
>
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> Bob La Londe
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Hmm.  Just a guess here, but is it may be because Silent Knight is a
Honeywell company now, and a fire panel with built-in communicator would
interfere with their offerings under the FireLite name?  Again, just a
guess.

Mike