Re: Radionics D7212B1 Panel Help

["WYSIWYG" <nospam@xxxxxxx>]

Final update on the D7212B1 unlocking story.

It seems that Jim Rojas and I have a good way to unlock Radionics
7000 and 9000 series panels. As it is not my intention to get into the
Radionics unlocking business, and it seems that it IS Jim's business,
if you want to have one of these panels unlocked contact Jim.

To be clear, the method that we have, by design, prevents capturing
the original datalock code and programming to avoid competitive
problems that could arise otherwise.

Thanks again to everyone for their insights.

"WYSIWYG" <nospam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Badenov,
>
> Thanks for the detailed information on the Datalock code. It will be
useful
> as I investigate the panel. I like these puzzels and I might end up with a
> good alarm system when I'm finish, all the better.
>
> If I come to some useful results I'll surely inform you.
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:a99eb724ad5ed6a43812b91c14e288c4@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Bob said:
> >
> > > I appreciate the detailed information on the lock-out mechanisms on
> these
> > >boards. One of the problems I have is understanding what is "normal"
> > >behavior and what is the result of losing the lithium battery. Can you
> give
> > >more info on the lockouts and passwords that are used? I am currenly
> > >decompling the EPROM program and I have located at least one password
in
> RAM
> > >along with the default "000000" in ROM. How many levels and types of
> > >passwords are used in these things?
> >
> > There are two different types of passwords, the "datalock" code and the
> > "RAM Passcode."  The datalock code was developed at the request of some
> > larger alarm companies, who were unhappy that smaller Radionics dealers
> > could take over their accounts by reprogramming them.   Datalock is
> > intended to prevent one dealer from programming another dealer's panels.
> >
> > The datalock code is entered as a decimal value between 0 and 65535.  It
> is
> > selected by the installing company, and is typically the same for all
that
> > company's systems.    Both the 5200 programmer and the remote
programming
> > software check the datalock code before allowing any panel programming.
> > The factory default datalock code is 12345.  The first time a programmer
> is
> > connected to the panel, this code is automatically changed to the
primary
> > datalock code that the dealer selected.
> >
> > The programmer can check up to 50 additional datalock codes besides the
> > primary and the default codes.  This allows one company to service
another
> > company's accounts without manually changing the datalock code in every
> > panel.  I do not know if the limitation of 50 codes is enforced by the
> > programmer or by the panel.  It may be possible to try every datalock
code
> > in sequence, or it may be necessary to do them in blocks of 50.
> >
> > When the panel's lithium battery dies (and no other power is connected),
> > the datalock code gets wiped out.  Since it is neither the correct value
> > nor the factory default value, the programmer will not communicate with
> the
> > panel.  Presumably this is done to prevent dealers from circumventing
the
> > datalock protection by removing the lithium battery.  So, the solution
is
> > to force-feed a datalock code of 12345 to the panel, only that's beyond
my
> > abilities.
> >
> > The datalock code is the only lock code that is checked when the 5200
> > programmer is used.  However, when the remote programming software
(called
> > RPS or RAM) is used, the panel also requires a "RAM Passcode."  This
> > consists of six hex digits.  Typically, it is different for each panel.
> > It's fully programmable by the dealer.  Its purpose is hacker
prevention,
> > rather than dealer lockout.
> >
> > If you do decide to go shopping for a 5200 programmer, you should expect
> it
> > to be secured by a password.  I'm sure that won't pose much of a problem
> > for someone with your abilities, though.  The password is set by the
user,
> > and is only contained in the programmer, not the panel.
> >
> > Good luck with your project.  I hope you'll feel like sharing the
results
> > of your research with the rest of us.
> >
> > - badenov
> >
> >
> >
>
>