Re: ASA re-visited

["Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
> I wrote (re. compiling sections of existing documents into a frequent
> posting to act as a charter for the group):
>
> >> ... I'll try and make time to work on this over the weekend.
>
> That didn't happen, I'm afraid.  I've had a household emergency take
> over most of my time for the next few days (water heater busted).
>
> On the other hand, I see that some regulars that had been "missing" for
> a while seem to have returned (it looks as though several reappeared at
> around the same time), and that there appears to be a desire for "self
> moderation" (even if in one case that's likely to be a "warts and all"
> type of image).

Actually we're all just waiting for the usual shoe to drop.

>
> Perhaps (laziness always prevails!) I should instead step right back on
> this and just let nature take its course.  My impression is that folks
> are tending to prefer the unchaotic nature that the group has enjoyed
> for the past few weeks anyway.  I doubt anyone needs *my* help for that.
> :-)
>

All but a few prefer the calm. What you see is typical.

Theres an old saying that somewhat applies here.

"All our friends bring happiness, some by coming, others by leaving. "

We've been in the second stage for a number of weeks now.

>
> Jim wrote:
>
> > And don't forget that Steve Ryckman made an offer to assist.
>
> Hrmmm ...  I don't think my news server received that message.  If you
> have the message-id handly, I wouldn't mind looking for it on an archive
> and seeing his offer.

The post was in this thread as follows:

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 Steve Ryckman
 Nov 2, 4:10 pm

Newsgroups: alt.security.alarms
From: Steve Ryckman <steve_at_nevets.net@nospam> - Find messages by
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Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:10:36 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 2 2005 4:10 pm
Subject: Re: ASA re-visited

On 11/1/2005 11:36 PM, Frank Olson wrote:



>The Groups "Original Purpose Message" and a brief history is here:

>http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/aboutasa.htm


>The FAQ (or nearest thing to a Charter that we have is here:


>http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/asafaq.htm



Those look reasonably close to what I remember (it's been a long time).

I have the originals as well as the content of the original ASA website

at home still.   Heck, I still have the messages when the AlarmSystems
group was formed on RelayNet back in the 80's.

As an unmoderated group understand that you have no recourse against
anyone who doesn't follow the rules or charter.  The rules and charters

are only for those that want to "play nice".  Generally only those
asking for help will follow the rules, those who are using it for
personal means will do what they want and say to he\\ with the rules.

Going to a moderated group would be the only way to really control the
group  Sad but true.


With that said, if a bunch of you decide to move forward with this, if
I
can provide web hosting or other support for the effort, let me know.


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>
> Thanks.
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