Re: Pricing on Ademco Smokes

["Frank Olson" <feolson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3e40fb203f742846833e6092a732705d@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Frank Olson said:
>
>>Incorrect. http://www.ademcoint.com/pdfs/ademco/5806ii.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>> They just happen to have a wireless transmitter inside.
>>
>>They're designated "system smoke detectors" and are designed to function
>>with a listed control panel (in this instance "QED control panels only").
>
>
> No, what I said is accurate.  The 5806 smokes are UL listed under UL 217,
> the standard for single and multiple station smoke alarms.  They are not
> listed under UL 268 as system smoke detectors.  (The 5808 smokes are
> listed
> under 268, by the way):
>
> http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?nam
> e=UTGT.S1428&ccnshorttitle=Single-+and+Multiple-station+Smoke+Alarms&objid=
> 1074303620&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073994256&sequen
> ce=1
>
> Technically, this means the 10 year service limitation given in NFPA 72
> applies, since the 5806 is a smoke alarm and not a system smoke detector.
> As I understand it, one of the distinctions between UL 217 and 268 is the
> operation of the test button:  in a smoke alarm, the button often just
> connects the battery to the horn, while in a system smoke detector, the
> test button tests at least some of the detection electronics.
>
> The 5806 instructions do not mention sensitivity testing, so presumably it
> is not possible to test this without using the big and expensive universal
> testers.
>
> By the way, the instruction sheet does not say Ademco "suggests"
> replacement after ten years, as you stated.  It says "recommend".
>
>
> I realize I'm picking nits here.  However, if you happen to be an
> anal-retentive NFPA standards buff, you'll want to replace all those smoke
> alarms every ten years whether they need it or not.  For the rest of us,
> we'll break out the canned smoke and see if they still work.
>
> - badenov


Thanks for the info and the link to UL.  Interesting that the manufacturer's
installation sheet doesn't include the listing category in this instance.
The reference to "detector" and the fact that it must be used in conjunction
with a listed panel is what threw me off.