Re: cleaner wiring solution needed (resend)

[Crash Gordon® <NONE@xxxxxxxx>]

ah..ok.

I do prefer to stay in the same price range as everyone else though. =
Most guys here are 20-24 bucks...with the occasional flyers at 15 & 35. =
One of the problems with going low is that as  your base rises (like =
your's is, your overhead is going to rise as well) and you won't be able =
to increase your rates enough to cover...going from 14.95 to 15.95 wont =
be a problem but you'll never get them up to 20-24 if that's where you =
need to be. Especially at 14.95, with maintence? How are you factoring =
rising equipment costs...ADI raises prices 4% every year...wire =
fluctuates with copper market..buying batteries is like operating in the =
commodities market...you sound too low to me..but I don't know your =
market area.


"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
news:mdCdncouk5T43KHfRVn-uw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> No Crash, perhaps I didn't explain myself carefully enough. I do have =
a=20
> signed contract and one that has been designed carefully for exactly =
the=20
> reasons you describe. Anyone foolish enough to do business without a =
formal=20
> contract deserves whatever they get. What I failed to explain was the =
term=20
> of the contract is only "monthly"; never a multi year term on it, =
since all=20
> my clients pay full market price up front. I also carry $2 million =
liability=20
> with a failure to perfom clause as well.  My business was set up =
properly at=20
> the beginning according to all the rules of law and common sense =
procedures.=20
> My overheads are properly covered in my business plan, and I make good =
money=20
> at $14.95 monthly, including overhead costs for service and warranty =
(which=20
> are built in and absolute - no exemptions for any reason).
>=20
> Profit is not a dirty word. It makes the world of business go around.=20
> Without it, we're all out on the street. The degree of profit each of =
us=20
> makes is relative to our situations. It's all about what we provide =
for that=20
> level of profit. I don't fault anyone for their level of profit =
(except the=20
> Borg...); I've simply chosen a level of profit that 1- pays me well =
for my=20
> work; 2- allows me to compete with others demanding more..and 3 - =
keeps me=20
> from giving our greedy government more than they deserve...(so they =
can p*ss=20
> it away on more useless $1BILLION programs like our disgusting "long =
gun=20
> registry"....:(((
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> Regards,
>=20
> RHC
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> "Crash Gordon=AE" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
> news:34X_d.5$uA3.140@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> How do you obtain liability and e/o insurance without a contract? =
Don't=20
> insurance carriers require to see your contract in Canada? The do =
here. You=20
> can't get insurance without the insurance carrier approving your =
contract.
>=20
> Contacts are to protect you and your client. And you don't have to =
enforce=20
> anything in the contract if you don't want to.
>=20
> If you're a small company can you absorb the cost of protecting =
yourself=20
> from a lawsuit without insurance and a valid contract to fall back on? =
If=20
> you think some nutjob won't try to sue you someday..think again. Not=20
> everyone is your friend.
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> Feeding at the trough? You don't think you have overhead for =
monitoring? -=20
> mailing billing cost, keeping someone on call 24hrs to answer clients=20
> questions, liability insurance, etc. You're adverse to making a fair =
profit?=20
> If your third party monitoring station only charged you a $1.00 a =
month for=20
> an account would you only charge $2.00 to your client?
>=20
>=20
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
> news:2d6dnUHnXZ-QpaHfRVn-1A@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sorry, this is a resend....something strange going on with my =
computer....
> > =
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> > My "so called" business plan is working well I'll have you know. =
Contrary=20
> > to
> > most companies in this industry, I actually created a very real =
business
> > plan based on sold rate models that I used when working in Bell =
Canada.=20
> > Nor
> > have I had to change it much during it's implementation. My son is =
now=20
> > full
> > time in the business and will be taking it over very soon. Our =
revenues
> > continue to rise dramatically, and my service costs are far below =
what I
> > imagined they would ever be. My phone continues to ring continually, =
and I
> > have ZERO overhead costs when it comes to advertising and promotion. =
Our
> > company has come to be known for it's straightforward and totally =
honest
> > approach to dealing with clients, and I'm damn proud of that (I will =

> > gladly
> > tell a client when we are not his best choice for security services =
when=20
> > we
> > are not...). My reputation in the local industry is solid; nor do I =
ever
> > have to resort to getting "down and dirty" with many other local=20
> > companies.
> > And the longer I'm in this business, the firmer my beliefs are about =

> > certain
> > industry practices. And just to reiterate (if it even matters to =
you) here
> > is what I've come to believe to be true
> >
> > 1- Long term contracts demanded by most companies in this business =
(when=20
> > not
> > necessary to ensure a "free system" is paid for) are almost an =
industry
> > scam. There is simply no need for them! Most cases amount to nothing =
more
> > than a customer ripoff !!!
> > 2- Most small companies charge excessive rates for monthly =
monitoring
> > services (in excess of $20 even when not paying down the cost of the =

> > system
> > put in at an artificially low price). Larger companies need this =
level
> > legitimately to maintain their higher overheads, but smaller ones =
are=20
> > simply
> > feeding at the trough !!
> > 3- There ought to be a law against locking customer owned fully paid =
for
> > alarm panels.
> > 4- The marketeers of free systems have cheapened the market even =
while
> > creating increased demand
> > 5- You don't need a long term contract on accounts to make them =
valuable=20
> > to
> > more sophisticated buyers
> > 6- There's no true leadership in this industry by the largest of the =
alarm
> > companies. They simply are the largest (and some would say the =
worst) of=20
> > the
> > bottom feeding money grubbers.
> > 7- You don't take every customer that comes in the door. You have to =
stay
> > strictly within your market niche.
> > 8- You must weed out your "non payers" ruthlessly
> > 9- Automatic billing is the only way to go. If they don't want that, =
then
> > send them elsewhere.
> >
> > I have about 800 accounts now and growing fast at about 5 a week. I=20
> > wouldn't
> > have gone beyond my ceiling of 500 if my son hadn't joined me in the
> > business. I thought I would spend my time doing service work, but =
that
> > simply hasn't come about. I'm going to head out on my motorcycle =
soon and
> > leave things in good hands !! And to sum it up, I don't give a =
tinkers=20
> > damn
> > whether you or anyone else agrees with my methodology; my customers =
do. I
> > look after them first and foremost and it seems they look after me ! =
If=20
> > what
> > works for you is different...well fine....good luck to you...I truly =
wish
> > you every success.
> >
> > And the last thing is, how the hell come I see your posts. I blocked =
your
> > mostly vulgar posts long ago. Seems I'll have to do it again.
> >
> > RHC
> >
> >
> > "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:1111212137.963438.277630@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >I have installed over 1200 alarms for my own >company, as well as
> > > others,
> > >>without a hint of a problem this way.
> > >
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Hmmmm
> > >
> > > Do I hear .......
> > > 500?   700?   1000?   1200?
> > >
> > > Do I hear 1500?????
> > >
> > > going once
> > >
> > > going twice
> > >
> > > going ..... wait .....
> > >
> > > wait a minute.
> > >
> > > I think I hear  1500 coming from up north .....
> > >
> > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > Well Robert..........
> > >
> > > You know  how I really hate to say ..... I tol ya so .....but hey
> > > ......... what the hell.  Eh?
> > >
> > > Now all you have to wonder about is:
> > >
> > > the other things I've predicted about your so called "business =
plan"
> > >
> >
> >
> >=20
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