Re: UL Required to get License

["Norm Mugford" <1alarm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mr. Bass wrote:

"The new rule allows a UL listed firm (or the building owner) to do the
installation.  It requires a UL listed monitoring center.  I'll check
with one of my clients (a captain in the Miami FD) to see if they also
require runner service".

That comment Mr. Bass, just shows how much you don't know about
a fire alarm system. I'll state the claim again.....
"you must be a UL listed installer to install a fire alarm system in
a commercial building in Miami-Dade, Boca Raton, Del Ray, Palm Beach
County and parts of Lee county".
The owner of a building cannot be UL listed. And, if he were to install a
fire
alarm system, how would he get a permit or a certificate of occupancy when
the fire department won't inspect it. Who would respond to a fire?

And yes Mr. Bass, runner service is required.
You would know that, if you knew what was required for Central Station
Service was under NFPA 72.

Tell your customer (the Miami FD Captain you referred to), that the
information
about the new fire policy at the last Miami-Dade meeting with the
fire alarm contractors and electricians, was given out by Lt. Joe Gagliano
and Fire Marshall M.C. Mena., and went into effect on November 15, 2005.
(If in fact you do have a customer in Miami that is a FD Captain).
About 70 people including myself were in attendance.

Norm Mugford




<robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1133926377.551911.209520@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Bahhaahahahaha!!!!
>
> No need to cry, Worthless.
>
>> Wait until you see what they will be paying now that UL is mandated. Not
>> only will you have the alarm company cost but they will have all of the
>> UL fees and higher monitoring fees...
>
> UL monitoring costs the same as non-UL monitoring.  Most large CS'
> already carry a UL fire listing.  They charge the same rates as the few
> non-UL houses do.
>
>> because they now have to have runner service on all systems, as well...
>
> The new rule allows a UL listed firm (or the building owner) to do the
> installation.  It requires a UL listed monitoring center.  I'll check
> with one of my clients (a captain in the Miami FD) to see if they also
> require runner service.
>
>> No choice, no alternative, no exemption unless of course it is a
>> government building. Just big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s to everyone involved...
>
> Everyone except you, right.  Hmm.  Between being shut out of all those
> lucrative commercial fire alarm jobs and the soon coming catastrophe
> that VoIP will do to small, under-powered CS like yours, it looks like
> your future isn't going to be as rosy as you might have hoped.
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
> www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
>