Re: clients

["Stanley Barthfarkle" <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx>]

I don't know about the Brinks commissions, but as a former in-house ADT
commercial rep, I do know that the Resi folks get at least $200-300 per sale
on an average system- in house, of course. Dealers probably pay less. The
Resi systems cost em about $1k or more upfront, which they make up over the
life of the contract. Break-even used to be over 24 months, now they've
gotten it down to 18 or less.



"thesatguy" <thesatguy1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:jcGKe.130822$0f.3198@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <g>It's not a subliminal ad.
> It's one of those "free" per inquiry ads that so many channels have and
> the local cable company is inserting their own ad in place of that one.
> When the tone signal comes down automatic equipment does a 'hot' switch
> and sometimes you see either the first fraction of a second of the ad or
> the last couple of seconds as the ad ends and the equipment switches back.
>
> Those per inquiry ads run by Brinks and ADT are run for free and the
> channels get paid "per inquiry" if there are any.  So, if another sponsor
> comes along and is willing to pay the paid ads get inserted on top of (or
> actually in place of) the per inquiry ads.
>
> It's the same way it works with most of the infomercials - the stations
> run them for free or for a small accounting fee and insert their own
> 'contact copy' and then wait for the stupid morons to call in and buy
> stuff and lots of morons do call in and buy stuff - which makes the
> stations a lot more money than if they charged a flat rate to run the
> infomercial.
>
> That dumb Bowflex is a perfect example: the original one cost anywhere
> from $7800. - $9600. and paid a $525. commission so the stations (or
> channels) got $1. if you "inquired" and $10. if you agreed to take the
> video but they got $525. everytime somebody bought one of the darn things.
> Nautalus was practically kaput and they started running ads for that
> Bowflex and everybody made tons of money cause they hace sold thousands of
> them.
>
> On the other hand, I doubt that anyone is getting rich off those Brinks
> and ADT ads because the product offered is so cheap the commissions will
> be very small and you would need a whole lot of volume to make any real
> money.
>
> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:9NAKe.63$_T5.2684@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> You can always tell when a client says...you can do this anytime you're
>> in the area...that they don't want to pay, I guess the thinking is let my
>> neighbor pay for service and I'll get a free ride.
>>
>> Clients place little or no value on our service because we are the only
>> business that gives systems and service away...at least that's what they
>> remember from the TV commercials.
>>
>> Speaking of TV commercials...has anyone seen the Brinks ad? I thought
>> subliminal advertising was illegal. This thing is *maybe* 1/2 SECOND long
>> it's just a flash on the screen with their logo and phone number. The
>> first time I saw it I thought it was my cable going out but now I've seen
>> it at least 4 times.
>>
>>
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>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:jtKdnQqHXdobJ2ffRVn-1Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I had a guy like that once. He wanted all sorts of physical security work
>>>(locks, bars etc) which involved a lot of custom steel work, but wouldn't
>>>pay a price that was anywhere near reasonable. So after lots of
>>>discussion, he finally said..."well, how about you come back and do it at
>>>that rate when you have some spare time because business is slow"...Yah
>>>right ! I'll do that for sure....right after hell freezes over....:))
>>>
>>> Where do these guys come from..!!!!
>>>
>>> RHC
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>>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:cJyKe.1150$hv5.6878@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Thanks all for letting me vent!
>>>>
>>>> I just emailed him essentially what you suggest...sorry bud..take two
>>>> asprin, save up enough dough to pay my non-negotiable labor rate and
>>>> call me whenever...
>>>>
>>>> I don't get that mentality...Doc, I need an emergency
>>>> appendectomy...I'll pay you 39.95.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:zTxKe.3839$Wi6.1758@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sounds like he's shopping around, when he thinks he has found someone
>>>>> cheaper he cancels the appointment with you... To his surprise, the
>>>>> lower bidder pulls a "No Show" because better paying jobs needed to
>>>>> get done in a timely manner...
>>>>>
>>>>> Solution is simple: Sorry Mr. Butthead, I'm booked solid for the next
>>>>> four weeks, I might be able to squeeze you in after hours for
>>>>> emergency service (at after hours rates), or Sunday at weekend/holiday
>>>>> rates... :-)) Regards, Russ
>>>>>
>>>>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:YOwKe.1139$hv5.5645@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <rant>
>>>>>> Sheesh some people are totally annoying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This guy (I suppose you might call him a client - but not really)
>>>>>> calls me last sept. he moved into a house with one of my systems in
>>>>>> it. Told me to call his wife at home which I did. They were leaving
>>>>>> tomorrow and wanted system monitored...ok fine...I get them all set
>>>>>> up in CS, told her I'd come down tomorrow morning first thing and
>>>>>> teach them how to use it and test the system. She says ok, but call
>>>>>> me back tonight first. So I call her back and they say they want to
>>>>>> wait till they get back from vacation to get it monitored...but would
>>>>>> I program a code in for them...ok fine...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two months later...same scenario only he now wants a dozen
>>>>>> references...ok fine...I set up permission for clients to call him.
>>>>>> Ok here we go again. Can you come tomorrow...sure...my rates are xxx.
>>>>>> for service and xxx for battery and whatever parts. I can come
>>>>>> tomorrow. Oh tomorrow's no good we're leaving tonight. Yah
>>>>>> right...you'll have to call me when you get back (it was like 9pm and
>>>>>> they live 40 miles one way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two MORE months go by. He calls again...we'd really like to get this
>>>>>> set up...I go through all the same shit again...he says call his wife
>>>>>> to set up appt...I call her like 10 x for 2 days...no answer, and no
>>>>>> call backs...so I figure they blew me off again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Needless to say this scene was repeated at least 2 MORE times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now he emails me last night...can you come tomorrow or friday morning
>>>>>> "I will pay you 50 bucks plus 15 for the battery". YAH RIGHT DOOD.
>>>>>> Not only am I supposed to crawl for this guy but he will dictate what
>>>>>> he will PAY me? Shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, just had to unload this one or it'd bother me all night.
>>>>>>
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