Re: NO MURDER PROSECUTION KANE COUNTY ILLINOIS

["Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Uncle Pete,

I defer to your expertise.  :^)

Regards,
Robert

"peteinchicago" <peteinchicago@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> robert - you were doing fine until the very last sentence
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>>> "the trier of fact" NOT the Court
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>> Well, if we're going to get technical, the expression "Trier of Fact" can
>> refer either to the judge or the jury.  Together with lawyers and a
>> record keeper, these form the court.  In a jury trial the jury determines
>> the facts; the judge the law.  In a bench trial the judge is both the
>> trier of fact and of law.
>>
>> Judges sometimes use 'court' to refer to themselves in the third person,
>> as in 'the court has read the briefs.'
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>> -- Lectric Law Library's Lexicon
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> i've never heard the "Court" referred to as "the whole shootin' match"
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> the "Court" is the judge...not the Court Reporter, not the Clerk, not the
> Bailiff...not the attorneys...jointly and severally
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> i got my j.d. in '79 and my LL.M (Legum Magister) in '82...quit reading
> that bullshit from Lectric Law Library and listen to uncle pete
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> what
> what did you say?
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