Re: Too much for me -- was Re: xPL announcement/description protocol -- was xPLDiag

[Mal Lansell <mal@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm sorry to hear you say that, Tony.  Your contibution to xPL has been
enormous, and will be sorely missed indeed.  Still, xPL is an interest,
not a living, and life's too short to devote your free time to something
you're not enjoying any more.  I hope one day that the fire may be
rekindled and you come back to the group, but if not, I want to wish you
good luck with whatever projects/interests you get involved with in the
future.

I have to say, though, that I don't think things in the xPL world are as
bleak as you paint them.  The recent discussions have all been with the
aim of improving xPL, to make it more accessible (cross-platform) and
user friendly (diagnostics, front-ends).  xPL is not perfect - and the
idea that it should be cast in stone is an impossible dream if it is to
remain useful and relevant.  The whole issue of device discovery is one
that shows a glaring hole in the protocol.  But no changes have been
agreed, and it's too early to say how it will all pan out in the end.
However, I don't expect a xAP style split to come from all of this.

Anyway, I've said my piece - I hope one day you will change your mind,
but I'm determined that whatever happens, xPL will carry one, even with
that huge Tony shaped hole in the midde of it.

Best Regards

Mal


Tony Tofts wrote:

> I had a feeling of impending doom about all this yesterday, but
decided to
> sleep on it. Having read the posts that were waiting in my inbox this
> morning has made that feeling far worse.
>
> Personally I feel we've now entered into that phase where we _are_
> discussing changes that undermine the 'simple' principles that xPL was
> built
> on. In short, I feel like i've been here before when xPL split off
> from xAP.
> And I, for one, am not a happy bunny about it.
>
> The core protocol was agreed to be set in stone - no matter what - as
I
> understood it, and comments posted in the last 12 hours totally ignore
> that
> fact in my opinion.
>
> My interest in xPL has now totally faded, and for me this is the end
> of the
> line. Sorry, but I'm not going thru the whole process again.
>
> MediaNet will continue, but all future announcements will be via my
> website,
> and I'll set up somekind of mailing list for it when I get time to
> allow for
> bug reports and feature requests etc. In the meantime feel free to
> e-mail me
> direct. The xpl app's on my site will stay for now in their current
form,
> but will eventually be deleted.
>
> Thanks to everyone for the help and feedback with xplmedianet (and
other
> stuff in the past) it has been much appreciated.
>
> To Ian, John and Steve whom the list was founded with - my profound
> apologies for this, but I can't be involved any more. And if I had
> e-mailed
> you my intentions first you may have talked me out of my decision for
now,
> and I didn't want that. I have enough stress in my life at the moment
> without letting this group add to it (yes, sadly xPL was very
important to
> me).
>
> I'm leaving the group with great regret of how things have panned out
from
> my perspective, but life's just too short to end up in arguments
again. I
> truly hope xPL grows on and forward in the way people want.
>
> I'll set my xpl account to 'web only' rather than deleting it, as I
> believe
> there is an issue with groups getting deleted when the moderator who
> created
> the group leaves it. If this isn't the case, feel free to delete it.
>
> Many thanks
> Tony
>
>
>
>
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