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Re: CD (or compact flash etc) booted XPLmedianet/XPLHAL
Can you even get a legitimate version of WinCE5 to install, as an end
user, rather than as an emebedded device manufacturer ordering licenses
by the thousands?
Mal
Ian Lowe wrote:
> Windows CE 5 may be a better platform for this purpose - for one
thing,
> it supports instant boot from CF, rather than "cf as a hard
drive"
> emulation. Secondly, and more importantly, it's not virii accesible
for
> the most part - there are also digital app signing mechanisms which
> allow execution to be heavily restricted.
>
> Oh, and the clincher? It runs .Net Compact framework, so minimal
> conversion is needed for existing apps.
>
> I downoaded the eval kit for CE5 on x86 hardware, but couldn't get a
> mobo description for the VIA EPIA Mobos built - that would be a major
> step forward if we could get it going.
>
> Ian.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Mal Lansell
> Sent: 25 September 2005 00:31
> To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] CD (or compact flash etc) booted
> XPLmedianet/XPLHAL
>
> It does say on their site that it doesn't include support for the full
> win32 api on the boot cds to save space. If you're planning for this
PC
> to have general purpose use (rather than as a media streamer), that
may
> be an issue.
>
> Mal
>
>
> michael.furlong wrote:
>
> > Paul
> >
> > I have looked at BART PE before for building recovery/boot CDs
but not
>
> > for a full environment..but it looks like it would work:)
> >
> > Now to find the time to do something about it!
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mick
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Paul Robinson
> > Sent: 25 September 2005 00:16
> > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] CD (or compact flash etc) booted
> > XPLmedianet/XPLHAL
> >
> >
> > Not sure whether this is flexible enough for what you'll need,
but you
>
> > could take a look at http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ for a
windows system
>
> > you can boot from CD
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "michael.furlong" <otherlists@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] CD (or compact flash etc) booted
> > XPLmedianet/XPLHAL
> >
> >
> > > Mal
> > >
> > > agree 100% on the apps conversion I think it has to be
windows for
> > the
> > > time being.
> > >
> > > On the CD/CF option I have a different view, having a DVD
back-up
> > and
> > > restoring it if needed is ok for thee and me. But if it is
installed
>
> > > for a friend or relative or as part of a commercially
delivered
> > > solution then asking the mother/friend/client to do a DVD
restore of
>
> > > say a hosted image just isn't on.
> > >
> > > Therefore a bulletproof as possible solution is preferable.
> > >
> > > Mick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of Mal Lansell
> > > Sent: 24 September 2005 23:34
> > > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] CD (or compact flash etc) booted
> > > XPLmedianet/XPLHAL
> > >
> > >
> > > Except that you'd need all the other apps converted to Linux
too -
> > > especially xPLMediaNet - and I don't see that happening any
time
> > soon!
> > >
> > > While booting from a CD or CF card sounds appealing, it's a
load of
> > > hassle and offers minimal benefit over just chucking a hard
drive in
>
> > > there. You don't gain any extra stability with a CF boot -
you
> > still
> > > need all those same flaky drivers for the rest of the
hardware. If
> > > you want to be able to restore the state, the easiest thing
to do is
> > just
> > > burn an an image of the configured machines hard drive onto
DVD.
> > >
> > > Spyware etc mostly comes from web browsing and installing
dodgy
> > > applications (and no xPL apps have spyware in them!), so
assuming
> > you
> > > have a firewall in place, you shouldn't get any on your
server
> > > machine.
> > > Normal anti-virus software will protect you against the
rest.
> > >
> > > Mal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Robinson wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is where we could do with xplhal on linux...then a
slug
> > > > (nslu2-linux.org) would have
> > > > been ideal for this.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "michael.furlong"
<otherlists@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:06 PM
> > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] CD (or compact flash etc) booted
> > > XPLmedianet/XPLHAL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just wondering if this sounds possible.....
> > > > >
> > > > > A PC (small form factor fanless etc) booting from
CD or some
> > other
> > > > > non-hard disc device and able to run xplhal and
xplmedianet
> > (plus
> > > > > maybe some other xpl apps).
> > > > >
> > > > > Idea being that it would use a NAS, like maybe a
buffalo
> > > terastation,
> > > > > to access MP3s and videos etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reasons for doing this is to get away from
having a full
> > blown
> > > PC
> > > > > on the network 24/7 and making the whole thing
more bulletproof.
> > > So if
> > > > > a problem occurs just reboot the diskless pc and
you are back to
> > > the
> > > > > original config.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the reasons for doing this is to remove the
possibility
> > of
> > > > > virus/spyware/worm infection so I guess another
question is
> > would
> > > this
> > > > > actual protect from this? I guess the shares could
still host
> > thes
> > > > > nasties.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mick
> >
> >
> >
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