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Re: All Stopped


  • Subject: Re: All Stopped
  • From: "Mal Lansell" <mal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:41:54 -0000

I'm really sorry about this, but I missed a step (I know it's a pain
to keep uninstalling, reinstalling and restarting).

After installing the xPLHub, you need to restart the xPLHal service
before quiting and running xPLHal Manager again.  The reason is that
otherwise the hub may not receive another heartbeat from xPLHal for
a few minutes, so won't know to pass any messages on to it.

This is also potentially a problem that might occur on startup - if
the xPLHal service starts before the xPLHub - but this will be
solved when the new version of xPLHal is released after testing.

Mal




--- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "George M" <gmotichka@h...> wrote:
>
> See below
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mal Lansell
>   To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:43 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] Re: All Stopped
>
>
>   OK, well the next thing to do would be to turn off the hub in
xPLHal -
>   make sure the service gets restarted too.
>   Did this
>
>   Quit xPLHal Manager and run it again.  There should be no
working
>   devices any more.
>   Correct - no devices present
>
>   Then install the xPLHub from xplmonkey.com
>   DId this.
>
>   Quit xPLHal Manager and run it again - everything should be
working again.
>   No workging devices show up - Also no devices to be configured.
>   Rebooted - No change.
>   Disabled the xPLHub and re enabled the built in hub
>   All devices now showing in the working device window.
>
>   What port number is the hub trying to use. I have the firewall
turned off right now and have the following ports being forwarded in
my router.
>   3865
>   5000 through 5009
>   Would it be trying to use some other one?
>
>   If this works, then reinstall the new W800 service...
>
>   George M wrote:
>
>   > Your going to love this.
>   > As soon as I uninstalled the newer W800 and installed the
older
>   > version -- It was found and configured right away.
>   > This is still using the built in hub - not the stand alone.
Thought I
>   > would solve one thing at a time.
>   >
>   > George
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Mal Lansell
>   >   To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:50 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] Re: All Stopped
>   >
>   >
>   >   Well in that case it should all "just work" :-(
>   >
>   >   I'm going to have to do some tests here, but I'm sure there
are quite a
>   >   few people already using my new hub and W800 service quite
happily
>   > (Frank?)
>   >
>   >   In the meantime, you can still download the old w800 service
from here:
>   >   http://www.lansell.org/mal/ha/ha_downloads.shtml
>   >
>   >   Mal
>   >
>   >
>   >   George M wrote:
>   >
>   >   > Broadcast:
>   >   > 255.255.255.255
>   >   >
>   >   > ListenOn
>   >   > Any_Local
>   >   >
>   >   > ListenTo
>   >   > Any
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   > Thanks
>   >   > George
>   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   From: Mal Lansell
>   >   >   To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:57 AM
>   >   >   Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: All Stopped
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   In xPLHal Manager, could you look under Tools/Network
Settings, and
>   >   >   let us know what the Broadcast, ListenOn and ListenTo
addresses are
>   >   >   set to?
>   >   >
>   >   >   Thanks
>   >   >
>   >   >   Mal
>   >   >
>   >   >   --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "George M"
<gmotichka@h...> wrote:
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > Tom,
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > I only have one network card.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > Mal,
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > What I cannot figure out (and admittedly I am a
novice
with XPL),
>   >   >   is that with the internal hub active all the devices
are
seen except
>   >   >   the new W800. With the stand alone hub, no devices are
seen. Before
>   >   >   I installed the new W800, it worked well with internal
hub- with the
>   >   >   new one it does not seem to respond to the request for
>   > configuration.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > I replace the older W800 install program. Can I
still
get a copy
>   >   >   of it to see if it will still work?
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   > George M
>   >   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   >   From: Mal Lansell
>   >   >   >   To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   >   >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:11 AM
>   >   >   >   Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: All Stopped
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   This is wierd.  The problems that George
mentioned
only occurred
>   >   >   on
>   >   >   >   my own machine when a ListenOn address was
specified, and with
>   >   >   the
>   >   >   >   built-in xPLHal hub.
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   The new hub worked fine with everything I
tested it
with...
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, Tom Van den
Panhuyzen
>   >   >   <tomvdp@g...>
>   >   >   >   wrote:
>   >   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   > Another idea: if you have multiple IP
addresses
(multiple
>   >   >   network
>   >   >   >   cards or
>   >   >   >   > VMWare or VirtualPC installed...) then you
need to
set a
>   >   >   >   default "listenon"
>   >   >   >   > address in the registry.
>   >   >   >   > IIRC: [HKLM]\Software\xpl\ListenOn
>   >   >   >   >  hth,
>   >   >   >   > Tom
>   >   >   >   >
>   >   >   >   >  On 10/11/05, George M
<gmotichka@h...> wrote:
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > Hi Mal,
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > I got the hub from your site.
>   >   >   >   www.xplmonkey.com<http://www.xplmonkey.com/>
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > Also I did a full reboot after
disabling the
internal hub
>   >   >   and
>   >   >   >   installing
>   >   >   >   > > the stand alone hub.
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > Thanks
>   >   >   >   > > George ME
>   >   >   >   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   >   > > From: Mal Lansell
>   >   >   >   > > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   >   >   >   > > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:36
AM
>   >   >   >   > > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] All Stopped
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > >  It sounds to me like the internal
hub of xPLHal
didn't
>   >   >   actually
>   >   >   >   get
>   >   >   >   > > turned off - did you restart the
xPLHal service
or reboot
>   >   >   after
>   >   >   >   setting
>   >   >   >   > > it to be disabled?
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > Also, where did you get the hub from?
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > Mal
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > George M wrote:
>   >   >   >   > >
>   >   >   >   > > > Well, I thought it was time to
upgrade to all
the latest
>   >   >   stuff
>   >   >   >   going
>   >   >   >   > > > around here. And of course now
nothing is
working. Not
>   >   >   sure
>   >   >   >   where to
>   >   >   >   > > > start. Here is what I did.
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > Installed the latest Manager 1.5
>   >   >   >   > > > Uninstalled W800 and reinstalled
with the
latest build
>   >   >   >   > > > Installed the XPLHub (not the
Java version),
and disabled
>   >   >   the
>   >   >   >   hub in
>   >   >   >   > > > XPLHal
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > At first I had three instances
of the W800 in
the manager
>   >   >   >   window to be
>   >   >   >   > > > configured. I could see in the
monitor that it
was
>   >   >   requesting
>   >   >   >   data,
>   >   >   >   > > > but never got any back. Also no
matter how
many times I
>   >   >   put
>   >   >   >   info into
>   >   >   >   > > > the configuration screen, none
of it stuck
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > Rebooted
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > Now nothing comes up in the
manager, either in
the
>   >   >   configured
>   >   >   >   or
>   >   >   >   > > > waiting to be configured window,
where before
I had
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > XPLHomevision
>   >   >   >   > > > XPL
>   >   >   >   > > > XPLw800
>   >   >   >   > > > XPLCM12
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > I then disabled the XPLHUB and
re enabled the
internal hub
>   >   >   of
>   >   >   >   XPLHal
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > Now Homevision, XPL and XPLcm12
are back in
the configured
>   >   >   >   window.
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > XPLW800 stays in the "to be
configured"
window, even
>   >   >   though I
>   >   >   >   put all
>   >   >   >   > > > the information into it.
>   >   >   >   > > > I now have two instances in the
"to be
configured' window.
>   >   >   The
>   >   >   >   one
>   >   >   >   > > > with the new name and the
default one.
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > I am going to try to find a
previous version
and see if it
>   >   >   >   will work.
>   >   >   >   > > > Any other ideas?
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > George M
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > > [Non-text portions of this
message have been
removed]
>   >   >   >   > > >
>   >   >   >   > > >
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