Re: xPLHal hung on startup

["Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Frank,

Well I figured out the 5 seconds.  There is another config item
called lastsent that was set to 5.  I set it to 3 and the confirm
message was 3 seconds later.  I lalso tried 500 ms for the dde config
item but that still didn't get the message through to Homevision.  I
also shut down ACE and that didn't seem to change anything.  Still no
Homevision activity.

Any other ideas?

Bob

--- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@b...>
wrote:
> Hi Bob
>
> > 11/12/04 14:25:44
> >
> > xpl-trig
> > {
> > hop=1
> > source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
> > target=*
> > }
> > x10.confirm
> > {
> > command=ON
> > device=F16
> > name=Air Compressor
> > }
> >
> > Does this all look OK?
>
> Yes that looks ok...so it should have turned on the compressor ????
only
> issue is the 5 seconds...
>
>
> > ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never see
any
> > DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might need
to
> > configure for the xPL DDE?
>
> Go back into xplmanager and click on xpl devices click on xpl
hvision and
> have a look at the
> ddespeed setting (not sure what the initial value is) i have mine
set to 500
> and works ok....
> If this doesnt speed things up i would suggest closing the ace app
and then
> retry to see if that makes any difference...
>
> The only dde enabling is done in hv and i assume this is already
done if ace
> is using dde
>
> HTH
> Frank
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:33 AM
> Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > Still plugging away.  The second instance of hvision is gone now
and
> > everything appears good.  Still get three messages in the xPL
monitor
> > window when I press a button on the remote, but still get no
action
> > from Homevision.  I thought it might help if I copied the script
from
> > the hvision windows.  When I press the button I see this in the
RX
> > window:
> >
> > 11/12/04 14:25:39
> >
> > xpl-cmnd
> > {
> > hop=1
> > source=XPL-XPLHAL.HOMECONTROL1
> > target=GSHED-HVISION.HOMECONTRO105634
> > }
> > x10.basic
> > {
> > command=on
> > device=F16
> > }
> >
> > The 5 seconds later I see this in both the TX and RX window:
> >
> > 11/12/04 14:25:44
> >
> > xpl-trig
> > {
> > hop=1
> > source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
> > target=*
> > }
> > x10.confirm
> > {
> > command=ON
> > device=F16
> > name=Air Compressor
> > }
> >
> > Does this all look OK?
> >
> > ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never see
any
> > DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might need
to
> > configure for the xPL DDE?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<fmcalind@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Bob
> > >
> > > > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the
plugins
so
> > that
> > > > the monitor would work.
> > >
> > > Thats good....
> > >
> > >
> > > >When I press a button on an RF remote, I
> > > > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG
message from
the
> > > > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG
message from
> > > > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and
the
third
> > one
> > > > is an X10.CONFIRM.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thats correct although the 5 seconds later is too long this
could
> > be due to
> > > having  two instances of xplhvision running......
> > >
> > > >One thing I see is that
> > > > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV
plugin in
the
> > xPL
> > > > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not
> > >
> > > In the tray at the bottom there are xpl icons ,move the
mouse
over
> > then to
> > > see if there are two gshed-hvision,s...if so right click on
one
and
> > close it
> > > .....
> > >
> > > >so I get a
> > > > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I
need to
start
> > >
> > > Yep thats correct hv must be running first
> > >
> > > > The next thing I need to figure out is this message
that the
> > xPLHal
> > > > service hung at startup.
> > >
> > > Sorry  John / Tony will have to help here........
> > >
> > > > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work
great.  I
look
> > > > forward to Mal adding this capability at some point
they will
be
> > very
> > > > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Im sure he will do his best to have the update done in the
very
near
> > > future...
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:24 AM
> > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Frank,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for sticking with me - I'm really close.
> > > >
> > > > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the
plugins
so
> > that
> > > > the monitor would work.
> > > >
> > > > I do have my W800 and I can see the commands in the
monitor
> > window.
> > > > Following your directions to George, I tried to add a
few
> > > > determinators.  I started with easy ones that receive
X10
signals
> > > > from the W800 and send X10 commands to HV.  In the
monitor,
> > > > everything appears to work.  When I press a button on
an RF
> > remote, I
> > > > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG
message from
the
> > > > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG
message from
> > > > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and
the
third
> > one
> > > > is an X10.CONFIRM.  Unfortunately Homevision never
responds
to the
> > > > command and doesn't send an X10 signal.  One thing I
see is
that
> > > > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV
plugin in
the
> > xPL
> > > > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not.  I
have
> > tried to
> > > > delete one but haven't figured out how to do that - any
> > suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > I need to have this PC reboot and start everything
unattended
for
> > > > when we are not here - power glitches, etc., so I tried
to
put the
> > > > xPLHvision fle in the startup folder.  This works but
it
seems to
> > > > start up before Homevision which is in the same folder
so I
get a
> > > > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I
need to
start
> > > > it.  I think I can fix this by starting xp\PLHvision
from a
macro
> > > > that does some other configuration things at startup. 
I'll
try
> > that.
> > > >
> > > > The next thing I need to figure out is this message
that the
> > xPLHal
> > > > service hung at startup.
> > > >
> > > > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work
great.  I
look
> > > > forward to Mal adding this capability at some point
they will
be
> > very
> > > > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
> > <fmcalind@b...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Bob
> > > > >             I will try and answer some questions
,hopefully
John
> > > > will answer
> > > > > the hard ones ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > xPLHAL issue John will have to advise
> > > > >
> > > > > >Now that this is done, do I need to do
anything with the
> > > > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the
startup folder
or is
> > it
> > > > now
> > > > > > installed in xPLHal
> > > > >
> > > > > In my setup i start it manually everytime after
the pc boots
> > up.....
> > > > >
> > > > > >However, when I
> > > > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message
that the
xpl-
> > schema-
> > > > > > collection.xml file is missing and I must
upgrade it in
the
> > > > plugins
> > > > > > folder.  What is this all about?
> > > > >
> > > > > You have installed the xplhvision app and w800
app...these
> > plugin
> > > > files have
> > > > > information regarding the apps ...Having this info
makes it
nice
> > > > and easy to
> > > > > create Determinators...
> > > > > In the mani screen of xPLHAL  click on help , then
plugin
> > > > library..this will
> > > > > bring up the  plugin  screen , select all and then
OK.....a
> > little
> > > > while
> > > > > later it will say all the  plugins are
loaded.......
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Once this is fixed, am I correct
> > > > > > that I should be able to at least monitor the
W800RF
messages?
> > > > >
> > > > > If all is ok yes you should see messages from the
w800...Have
> > you
> > > > received
> > > > > your w800 ??
> > > > > HTH
> > > > > Frank
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Bob Gardner"
<gardner.bob@g...>
> > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:17 AM
> > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi John,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well I set the service to Manual, rebooted,
and then
started
> > the
> > > > > > service.  It started fine - took about 5
seconds and no
> > errors.  I
> > > > > > followed your recommendations, opened xPLHal
Manager and
> > > > configured
> > > > > > xPLHal and xPLHal showed up under xPL Devices
just as you
> > said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then I put the service back in automatic and
rebooted and
had
> > the
> > > > > > same problem.  I get a dialog box that says
some service
has
> > > > failed
> > > > > > to start and to review the event viewer. 
When I look at
the
> > > > viewer,
> > > > > > it says that xPLHal service has hung on
startup.  Although
> > when I
> > > > go
> > > > > > into services it shows that the service is
running fine.
I
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > > > get Windows to stop thinking the service has
hung - any
ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since I got that far, I also ran the
xPLHvision.exe
plugin and
> > > > > > installed the W800RF plugin.  The I went into
xPLHal
manager
> > and
> > > > > > configured them both so that they now show up
as xPL
devices.
> > > > > > Question - Now that this is done, do I need
to do anything
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the
startup folder
or is
> > it
> > > > now
> > > > > > installed in xPLHal and I don't need to do
anything else
with
> > it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So now I figure I should at least be able to
go into the
> > monitor
> > > > and
> > > > > > see messages being sent from the W800RF
receiver.
However,
> > when I
> > > > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message
that the
xpl-
> > schema-
> > > > > > collection.xml file is missing and I must
upgrade it in
the
> > > > plugins
> > > > > > folder.  What is this all about?  Once this
is fixed, am I
> > correct
> > > > > > that I should be able to at least monitor the
W800RF
messages?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Progress seems slow but there is a lot to
learn.  Thanks
for
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > help so far.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "John B"
<home-
> > automation@j...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Bob,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So far I have installed the .NET
framework, the DevCom
> > > > > > installation
> > > > > > > > package and xPLHal.  The problem is
that, when I
boot, I
> > get a
> > > > > > > > message that a service has not
started.  When I look
at
> > the
> > > > Event
> > > > > > > > Viewer, the message is that the
xPLHal service hung
during
> > > > > > startup.
> > > > > > > > When I look at services it says
that the xPLHal
service is
> > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > I also notice that the computer
mouse is very sluggish
> > all of
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > sudden.  If I disable the service
and reboot
everything is
> > > > good
> > > > > > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try setting the service startup type to
"Manual" - this
will
> > > > > > prevent it from starting automatically when
Windows
starts,
> > which
> > > > > > should help to debug the problem.
> > > > > > > Then, reboot your computer, and once
it's rebooted, try
> > starting
> > > > > > the xPLHal service manually (right-click on
xPLHal in the
> > list of
> > > > > > services and click Start).
> > > > > > > See how long the service takes to start
- it shouldn't
be
> > more
> > > > than
> > > > > > a few seconds.
> > > > > > > (maybe 8-10 seconds max.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Once started (assuming it does start
with no errors),
open
> > up
> > > > the
> > > > > > xPLHal Manager (there should be a link under
your Start
> > > > Menu/Programs
> > > > > > for xPLHal Manager).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When xPLHal Manager starts up, click on
xPL Devices and
see
> > if
> > > > > > anything is listed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then expand the xPL Devices node in the
tree and click
on
> > > > Awaiting
> > > > > > Configuration - again, see if anything is
listed.
> > > > > > > If you see something like
XPL-XPLHAL.<your computer
name>1
> > > > listed
> > > > > > under the awaiting configuration node,
double-click on it.
> > > > > > > This will bring up it's configuration
screen.
> > > > > > > Select "newconf" from the list
of configurable items
> > (probably
> > > > > > already selected by default) and enter a name
for your
xPLHal
> > > > server -
> > > > > >  you may just want to use your computer name.
> > > > > > > Click OK to close the config dialog.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, when you look under the xPL Devices
node, you
should
> > see
> > > > > > xPLHal listed, along with the new name that
you've given
it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let us know how you get on with the
above - hopefully
we can
> > > > > > pinpoint what the problem could be depend on
how much of
the
> > above
> > > > > > works for you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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