Re: Re: xPLHal hung on startup

["Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Bob
Just to be sure ...try and activate the  x10 device from
Homevision x10 screen....
can you copy and paste into an email the commands that are recorded in
xplmonitor whan you press a button on your rf remote  please........
Frank


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:26 AM
Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup


>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Well I figured out the 5 seconds.  There is another config item
> called lastsent that was set to 5.  I set it to 3 and the confirm
> message was 3 seconds later.  I lalso tried 500 ms for the dde config
> item but that still didn't get the message through to Homevision.  I
> also shut down ACE and that didn't seem to change anything.  Still no
> Homevision activity.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Bob
>
> --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<fmcalind@b...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Bob
> >
> > > 11/12/04 14:25:44
> > >
> > > xpl-trig
> > > {
> > > hop=1
> > > source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
> > > target=*
> > > }
> > > x10.confirm
> > > {
> > > command=ON
> > > device=F16
> > > name=Air Compressor
> > > }
> > >
> > > Does this all look OK?
> >
> > Yes that looks ok...so it should have turned on the compressor
????
> only
> > issue is the 5 seconds...
> >
> >
> > > ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never
see
> any
> > > DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might
need
> to
> > > configure for the xPL DDE?
> >
> > Go back into xplmanager and click on xpl devices click on xpl
> hvision and
> > have a look at the
> > ddespeed setting (not sure what the initial value is) i have mine
> set to 500
> > and works ok....
> > If this doesnt speed things up i would suggest closing the ace
app
> and then
> > retry to see if that makes any difference...
> >
> > The only dde enabling is done in hv and i assume this is already
> done if ace
> > is using dde
> >
> > HTH
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:33 AM
> > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Frank,
> > >
> > > Still plugging away.  The second instance of hvision is gone
now
> and
> > > everything appears good.  Still get three messages in the
xPL
> monitor
> > > window when I press a button on the remote, but still get no
> action
> > > from Homevision.  I thought it might help if I copied the
script
> from
> > > the hvision windows.  When I press the button I see this in
the RX
> > > window:
> > >
> > > 11/12/04 14:25:39
> > >
> > > xpl-cmnd
> > > {
> > > hop=1
> > > source=XPL-XPLHAL.HOMECONTROL1
> > > target=GSHED-HVISION.HOMECONTRO105634
> > > }
> > > x10.basic
> > > {
> > > command=on
> > > device=F16
> > > }
> > >
> > > The 5 seconds later I see this in both the TX and RX window:
> > >
> > > 11/12/04 14:25:44
> > >
> > > xpl-trig
> > > {
> > > hop=1
> > > source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
> > > target=*
> > > }
> > > x10.confirm
> > > {
> > > command=ON
> > > device=F16
> > > name=Air Compressor
> > > }
> > >
> > > Does this all look OK?
> > >
> > > ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never
see
> any
> > > DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might
need
> to
> > > configure for the xPL DDE?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
> <fmcalind@b...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Bob
> > > >
> > > > > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of
the plugins
> so
> > > that
> > > > > the monitor would work.
> > > >
> > > > Thats good....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >When I press a button on an RF remote, I
> > > > > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG
message from
> the
> > > > > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG
message from
> > > > > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC
and the
> third
> > > one
> > > > > is an X10.CONFIRM.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thats correct although the 5 seconds later is too long
this
> could
> > > be due to
> > > > having  two instances of xplhvision running......
> > > >
> > > > >One thing I see is that
> > > > > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV
plugin in
> the
> > > xPL
> > > > > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or
not
> > > >
> > > > In the tray at the bottom there are xpl icons ,move the
mouse
> over
> > > then to
> > > > see if there are two gshed-hvision,s...if so right
click on one
> and
> > > close it
> > > > .....
> > > >
> > > > >so I get a
> > > > > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and
I need to
> start
> > > >
> > > > Yep thats correct hv must be running first
> > > >
> > > > > The next thing I need to figure out is this
message that the
> > > xPLHal
> > > > > service hung at startup.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry  John / Tony will have to help here........
> > > >
> > > > > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work
great.  I
> look
> > > > > forward to Mal adding this capability at some
point they will
> be
> > > very
> > > > > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im sure he will do his best to have the update done in
the very
> near
> > > > future...
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:24 AM
> > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for sticking with me - I'm really close.
> > > > >
> > > > > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of
the plugins
> so
> > > that
> > > > > the monitor would work.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do have my W800 and I can see the commands in
the monitor
> > > window.
> > > > > Following your directions to George, I tried to
add a few
> > > > > determinators.  I started with easy ones that
receive X10
> signals
> > > > > from the W800 and send X10 commands to HV.  In the
monitor,
> > > > > everything appears to work.  When I press a button
on an RF
> > > remote, I
> > > > > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG
message from
> the
> > > > > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG
message from
> > > > > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC
and the
> third
> > > one
> > > > > is an X10.CONFIRM.  Unfortunately Homevision never
responds
> to the
> > > > > command and doesn't send an X10 signal.  One thing
I see is
> that
> > > > > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV
plugin in
> the
> > > xPL
> > > > > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or
not.  I have
> > > tried to
> > > > > delete one but haven't figured out how to do that
- any
> > > suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > I need to have this PC reboot and start everything
unattended
> for
> > > > > when we are not here - power glitches, etc., so I
tried to
> put the
> > > > > xPLHvision fle in the startup folder.  This works
but it
> seems to
> > > > > start up before Homevision which is in the same
folder so I
> get a
> > > > > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and
I need to
> start
> > > > > it.  I think I can fix this by starting
xp\PLHvision from a
> macro
> > > > > that does some other configuration things at
startup.  I'll
> try
> > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > The next thing I need to figure out is this
message that the
> > > xPLHal
> > > > > service hung at startup.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work
great.  I
> look
> > > > > forward to Mal adding this capability at some
point they will
> be
> > > very
> > > > > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc
Alinden"
> > > <fmcalind@b...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Bob
> > > > > >             I will try and answer some
questions ,hopefully
> John
> > > > > will answer
> > > > > > the hard ones ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > xPLHAL issue John will have to advise
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Now that this is done, do I need to do
anything with the
> > > > > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the
startup folder
> or is
> > > it
> > > > > now
> > > > > > > installed in xPLHal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In my setup i start it manually everytime
after the pc boots
> > > up.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >However, when I
> > > > > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a
message that the
> xpl-
> > > schema-
> > > > > > > collection.xml file is missing and I
must upgrade it in
> the
> > > > > plugins
> > > > > > > folder.  What is this all about?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have installed the xplhvision app and
w800 app...these
> > > plugin
> > > > > files have
> > > > > > information regarding the apps ...Having this
info makes it
> nice
> > > > > and easy to
> > > > > > create Determinators...
> > > > > > In the mani screen of xPLHAL  click on help ,
then plugin
> > > > > library..this will
> > > > > > bring up the  plugin  screen , select all and
then OK.....a
> > > little
> > > > > while
> > > > > > later it will say all the  plugins are
loaded.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Once this is fixed, am I correct
> > > > > > > that I should be able to at least
monitor the W800RF
> messages?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If all is ok yes you should see messages from
the
> w800...Have
> > > you
> > > > > received
> > > > > > your w800 ??
> > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > Frank
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Bob Gardner"
<gardner.bob@g...>
> > > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:17 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on
startup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi John,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well I set the service to Manual,
rebooted, and then
> started
> > > the
> > > > > > > service.  It started fine - took about 5
seconds and no
> > > errors.  I
> > > > > > > followed your recommendations, opened
xPLHal Manager and
> > > > > configured
> > > > > > > xPLHal and xPLHal showed up under xPL
Devices just as you
> > > said.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then I put the service back in automatic
and rebooted and
> had
> > > the
> > > > > > > same problem.  I get a dialog box that
says some service
> has
> > > > > failed
> > > > > > > to start and to review the event viewer.
 When I look at
> the
> > > > > viewer,
> > > > > > > it says that xPLHal service has hung on
startup.  Although
> > > when I
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > into services it shows that the service
is running fine.
> I
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > get Windows to stop thinking the service
has hung - any
> ideas?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since I got that far, I also ran the
xPLHvision.exe
> plugin and
> > > > > > > installed the W800RF plugin.  The I went
into xPLHal
> manager
> > > and
> > > > > > > configured them both so that they now
show up as xPL
> devices.
> > > > > > > Question - Now that this is done, do I
need to do anything
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the
startup folder
> or is
> > > it
> > > > > now
> > > > > > > installed in xPLHal and I don't need to
do anything else
> with
> > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So now I figure I should at least be
able to go into the
> > > monitor
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > see messages being sent from the W800RF
receiver.
> However,
> > > when I
> > > > > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a
message that the
> xpl-
> > > schema-
> > > > > > > collection.xml file is missing and I
must upgrade it in
> the
> > > > > plugins
> > > > > > > folder.  What is this all about?  Once
this is fixed, am I
> > > correct
> > > > > > > that I should be able to at least
monitor the W800RF
> messages?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Progress seems slow but there is a lot
to learn.  Thanks
> for
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > help so far.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "John
B" <home-
> > > automation@j...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Bob,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So far I have installed the
.NET framework, the DevCom
> > > > > > > installation
> > > > > > > > > package and xPLHal.  The
problem is that, when I
> boot, I
> > > get a
> > > > > > > > > message that a service has not
started.  When I look
> at
> > > the
> > > > > Event
> > > > > > > > > Viewer, the message is that
the xPLHal service hung
> during
> > > > > > > startup.
> > > > > > > > > When I look at services it
says that the xPLHal
> service is
> > > > > > > running.
> > > > > > > > > I also notice that the
computer mouse is very sluggish
> > > all of
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > sudden.  If I disable the
service and reboot
> everything is
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Try setting the service startup
type to "Manual" - this
> will
> > > > > > > prevent it from starting automatically
when Windows
> starts,
> > > which
> > > > > > > should help to debug the problem.
> > > > > > > > Then, reboot your computer, and
once it's rebooted, try
> > > starting
> > > > > > > the xPLHal service manually (right-click
on xPLHal in the
> > > list of
> > > > > > > services and click Start).
> > > > > > > > See how long the service takes to
start - it shouldn't
> be
> > > more
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > a few seconds.
> > > > > > > > (maybe 8-10 seconds max.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Once started (assuming it does
start with no errors),
> open
> > > up
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > xPLHal Manager (there should be a link
under your Start
> > > > > Menu/Programs
> > > > > > > for xPLHal Manager).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When xPLHal Manager starts up,
click on xPL Devices and
> see
> > > if
> > > > > > > anything is listed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then expand the xPL Devices node in
the tree and click
> on
> > > > > Awaiting
> > > > > > > Configuration - again, see if anything
is listed.
> > > > > > > > If you see something like
XPL-XPLHAL.<your computer
> name>1
> > > > > listed
> > > > > > > under the awaiting configuration node,
double-click on it.
> > > > > > > > This will bring up it's
configuration screen.
> > > > > > > > Select "newconf" from the
list of configurable items
> > > (probably
> > > > > > > already selected by default) and enter a
name for your
> xPLHal
> > > > > server -
> > > > > > >  you may just want to use your computer
name.
> > > > > > > > Click OK to close the config
dialog.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now, when you look under the xPL
Devices node, you
> should
> > > see
> > > > > > > xPLHal listed, along with the new name
that you've given
> it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let us know how you get on with the
above - hopefully
> we can
> > > > > > > pinpoint what the problem could be
depend on how much of
> the
> > > above
> > > > > > > works for you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
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