Re: Re: xPLHal hung on startup

["Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Bob

> I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the plugins so that
> the monitor would work.

Thats good....


>When I press a button on an RF remote, I
> see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG message from the
> W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG message from
> Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and the third one
> is an X10.CONFIRM.


Thats correct although the 5 seconds later is too long this could be due to
having  two instances of xplhvision running......

>One thing I see is that
> somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV plugin in the xPL
> devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not

In the tray at the bottom there are xpl icons ,move the mouse over then to
see if there are two gshed-hvision,s...if so right click on one and close
it
.....

>so I get a
> dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I need to start

Yep thats correct hv must be running first

> The next thing I need to figure out is this message that the xPLHal
> service hung at startup.

Sorry  John / Tony will have to help here........

> I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work great.  I look
> forward to Mal adding this capability at some point they will be very
> helpful for remote wireless sensing.
>

Im sure he will do his best to have the update done in the very near
future...

Frank



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:24 AM
Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup


>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Thanks for sticking with me - I'm really close.
>
> I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the plugins so that
> the monitor would work.
>
> I do have my W800 and I can see the commands in the monitor window.
> Following your directions to George, I tried to add a few
> determinators.  I started with easy ones that receive X10 signals
> from the W800 and send X10 commands to HV.  In the monitor,
> everything appears to work.  When I press a button on an RF remote, I
> see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG message from the
> W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG message from
> Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and the third one
> is an X10.CONFIRM.  Unfortunately Homevision never responds to the
> command and doesn't send an X10 signal.  One thing I see is that
> somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV plugin in the xPL
> devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not.  I have tried to
> delete one but haven't figured out how to do that - any suggestions?
>
> I need to have this PC reboot and start everything unattended for
> when we are not here - power glitches, etc., so I tried to put the
> xPLHvision fle in the startup folder.  This works but it seems to
> start up before Homevision which is in the same folder so I get a
> dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I need to start
> it.  I think I can fix this by starting xp\PLHvision from a macro
> that does some other configuration things at startup.  I'll try that.
>
> The next thing I need to figure out is this message that the xPLHal
> service hung at startup.
>
> I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work great.  I look
> forward to Mal adding this capability at some point they will be very
> helpful for remote wireless sensing.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Bob
>
> --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<fmcalind@b...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Bob
> >             I will try and answer some questions ,hopefully John
> will answer
> > the hard ones ;-)
> >
> > xPLHAL issue John will have to advise
> >
> > >Now that this is done, do I need to do anything with the
> > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the startup folder or
is it
> now
> > > installed in xPLHal
> >
> > In my setup i start it manually everytime after the pc boots
up.....
> >
> > >However, when I
> > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message that the
xpl-schema-
> > > collection.xml file is missing and I must upgrade it in the
> plugins
> > > folder.  What is this all about?
> >
> > You have installed the xplhvision app and w800 app...these plugin
> files have
> > information regarding the apps ...Having this info makes it nice
> and easy to
> > create Determinators...
> > In the mani screen of xPLHAL  click on help , then plugin
> library..this will
> > bring up the  plugin  screen , select all and then OK.....a
little
> while
> > later it will say all the  plugins are loaded.......
> >
> > >  Once this is fixed, am I correct
> > > that I should be able to at least monitor the W800RF
messages?
> >
> > If all is ok yes you should see messages from the w800...Have you
> received
> > your w800 ??
> > HTH
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:17 AM
> > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > Well I set the service to Manual, rebooted, and then started
the
> > > service.  It started fine - took about 5 seconds and no
errors.  I
> > > followed your recommendations, opened xPLHal Manager and
> configured
> > > xPLHal and xPLHal showed up under xPL Devices just as you
said.
> > >
> > > Then I put the service back in automatic and rebooted and
had the
> > > same problem.  I get a dialog box that says some service has
> failed
> > > to start and to review the event viewer.  When I look at the
> viewer,
> > > it says that xPLHal service has hung on startup.  Although
when I
> go
> > > into services it shows that the service is running fine.  I
need
> to
> > > get Windows to stop thinking the service has hung - any
ideas?
> > >
> > > Since I got that far, I also ran the xPLHvision.exe plugin
and
> > > installed the W800RF plugin.  The I went into xPLHal manager
and
> > > configured them both so that they now show up as xPL
devices.
> > > Question - Now that this is done, do I need to do anything
with
> the
> > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the startup folder or
is it
> now
> > > installed in xPLHal and I don't need to do anything else
with it?
> > >
> > > So now I figure I should at least be able to go into the
monitor
> and
> > > see messages being sent from the W800RF receiver.  However,
when I
> > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message that the
xpl-schema-
> > > collection.xml file is missing and I must upgrade it in the
> plugins
> > > folder.  What is this all about?  Once this is fixed, am I
correct
> > > that I should be able to at least monitor the W800RF
messages?
> > >
> > > Progress seems slow but there is a lot to learn.  Thanks for
all
> the
> > > help so far.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "John B"
<home-automation@j...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Bob,
> > > >
> > > > > So far I have installed the .NET framework, the
DevCom
> > > installation
> > > > > package and xPLHal.  The problem is that, when I
boot, I get a
> > > > > message that a service has not started.  When I
look at the
> Event
> > > > > Viewer, the message is that the xPLHal service
hung during
> > > startup.
> > > > > When I look at services it says that the xPLHal
service is
> > > running.
> > > > > I also notice that the computer mouse is very
sluggish all of
> a
> > > > > sudden.  If I disable the service and reboot
everything is
> good
> > > again.
> > > >
> > > > Try setting the service startup type to
"Manual" - this will
> > > prevent it from starting automatically when Windows starts,
which
> > > should help to debug the problem.
> > > > Then, reboot your computer, and once it's rebooted, try
starting
> > > the xPLHal service manually (right-click on xPLHal in the
list of
> > > services and click Start).
> > > > See how long the service takes to start - it shouldn't
be more
> than
> > > a few seconds.
> > > > (maybe 8-10 seconds max.)
> > > >
> > > > Once started (assuming it does start with no errors),
open up
> the
> > > xPLHal Manager (there should be a link under your Start
> Menu/Programs
> > > for xPLHal Manager).
> > > >
> > > > When xPLHal Manager starts up, click on xPL Devices and
see if
> > > anything is listed.
> > > >
> > > > Then expand the xPL Devices node in the tree and click
on
> Awaiting
> > > Configuration - again, see if anything is listed.
> > > > If you see something like XPL-XPLHAL.<your computer
name>1
> listed
> > > under the awaiting configuration node, double-click on it.
> > > > This will bring up it's configuration screen.
> > > > Select "newconf" from the list of
configurable items (probably
> > > already selected by default) and enter a name for your
xPLHal
> server -
> > >  you may just want to use your computer name.
> > > > Click OK to close the config dialog.
> > > >
> > > > Now, when you look under the xPL Devices node, you
should see
> > > xPLHal listed, along with the new name that you've given it.
> > > >
> > > > Let us know how you get on with the above - hopefully
we can
> > > pinpoint what the problem could be depend on how much of the
above
> > > works for you.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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