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Hi Pete,
=20
I used to use IFTTT but the delays and reliance on a good internet
connecti=
on did away with that option.
=20
Node-red running on a Raspberry Pi3 would be an ideal replacement for your
=
timers issue. Peter Scargill has created an awesome script that if run on
a=
new installation of Debian, will download and install everything you need =
for home automation including Alexa integration via HABridge. His BigTimer
=
for Node-red is wonderful for setting up timings etc. It also installs the
=
Mosquitto MQTT server so if you are familiar with righting code for the
Aru=
dino and use the ESP8266 modules, you have a great way to roll your own
and=
make them reliable (depends on your coding skills of course but Peter Scar=
gill, yes him again, has a very stable code base for the ESP8266 that can
r=
un on Sonoff modules)
=20
There is also a Squeezebox module for Node-red but I am not familiar with
w=
hat it can do as I don=E2=80=99t have any devices.
=20
Some useful links for Peter=E2=80=99s stuff.
=20
https://tech.scargill.net/home-control-2016/
=20
https://tech.scargill.net/big-timer/
=20
https://tech.scargill.net/a-christmas-script/
=20
Dave=E2=80=A6
=20
=20
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>=20
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:46 AM
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Indigo forums are pretty active, as are the Smart
Thi=
ngs forums
=20
=20=20
I'm lucky enough to have 2 houses:
=20
My selfbuild home in Ireland has CBUS and Comfort, and my London home has
S=
T.
=20
Have to admit these are two very different experiences:
My ST set up uses Fibaro micro modules, hacked SONOFF and also links to
Hiv=
e and Echo. However it needs the Cloud to do even the basic things, which
=
just wouldn't work in my flaky 4G connected holiday home. One example of
t=
he difficulty is that it is not possible to automate a fan to turn off on
a=
timer with ST without some cloud hops via IFTTT etc. That just seems basi=
c missing functions to me.
It certainly isn't robust and needs a a lot of checking to see what is (or
=
rather isn't) working. Thankfully there is good logging and status
checkin=
g in the online console.
This was all put in to replace an old X10 based system which allows it to
j=
ust about meet the WAF, but mainly due to being better than before.=20
Integration with Hive (soon to be replaced with Wiser) and Logitech Hub
are=
hardly used and these systems work well standalone with Echo, and ST adds =
very little.
Note there is an Amazon project to develop a skill for Echo to control
Sque=
ezebox, but this seems to have stalled and only has basic functionality at
=
present.
Having CBUS and Comfort in a separate environment gives quite a contrast -
=
it just does everything so well! I miss the Echo to control lights - (so
m=
ay go down the route Paul describes, but it seems such a faff!), but
Comfor=
t even makes X10 work. I'm not sure I'd add ST to this system (even if I
h=
ad the broadband), as I think the extra gimicky functionality would come
at=
a massive reduction to reliability and WAF.
Pete
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<div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-l=
anguage:EN-US'>Hi
Pete,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I used to use
IFTTT but =
the delays and reliance on a good internet connection did away with that
op=
tion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Node-red running on a Raspberry Pi3
would =
be an ideal replacement for your timers issue. Peter Scargill has created
a=
n awesome script that if run on a new installation of Debian, will
download=
and install everything you need for home automation including Alexa integr=
ation via HABridge. His BigTimer for Node-red is wonderful for setting up
t=
imings etc. It also installs the Mosquitto MQTT server so if you are
famili=
ar with righting code for the Arudino and use the ESP8266 modules, you
have=
a great way to roll your own and make them reliable (depends on your codin=
g skills of course but Peter Scargill, yes him again, has a very stable
cod=
e base for the ESP8266 that can run on Sonoff
modules)<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:=
EN-US'>There is also a Squeezebox module for Node-red but I am not
familiar=
with what it can do as I don=E2=80=99t have any
devices.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-langua=
ge:EN-US'>Some useful links for Peter=E2=80=99s
stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:=
EN-US'><a href=3D"https://tech.scargill.net/home-control-2016/";>https://tec=
h.scargill.net/home-control-2016/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href=3D=
"https://tech.scargill.net/big-timer/";>https://tech.scargill.net/big-timer/=
</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-l=
anguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href=3D"https://tech.scargill.net/a-chri=
stmas-script/">https://tech.scargill.net/a-christmas-script/</a><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=
<o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast=
-language:EN-US'>Dave=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p><div><div
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;pa=
dding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span
lang=3DEN-US>From:</=
span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> ukha_d@xxxxxxx
<ukha_d@yahoogroups.=
com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 15, 2018
12:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] Indigo
forums are pret=
ty active, as are the Smart Things
forums<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p>=
</o:p></p><div id=3Dygrp-mlmsg><div
id=3Dygrp-msg><div id=3Dygrp-text><p>I'=
m lucky enough to have 2
houses:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>My selfbuild home in Ire=
land has CBUS and Comfort, and my London home has
ST.<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNorm=
al>Have to admit these are two very different
experiences:<o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>My ST set up uses
Fibaro micro modules, h=
acked SONOFF and also links to Hive and Echo. However it needs
the Cl=
oud to do even the basic things, which just wouldn't work in my flaky 4G
co=
nnected holiday home. One example of the difficulty is
that it i=
s not possible to automate a fan to turn off on a timer with ST without
som=
e cloud hops via IFTTT etc. That just seems basic missing
functions t=
o me.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It certainly isn't robust
and needs a a lot=
of checking to see what is (or rather isn't) working. Thankfully
the=
re is good logging and status checking in the online
console.<o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>This was
all put in to replace an old=
X10 based system which allows it to just about meet the WAF, but
main=
ly due to being better than
before. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal>Integration with Hive (soon to be replaced with Wiser) and
Log=
itech Hub are hardly used and these systems work well standalone with
Echo,=
and ST adds very
little.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><br=
><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Note there is an Amazon=
project to develop a skill for Echo to control Squeezebox, but this seems =
to have stalled and only has basic functionality at
present.<o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal>Having CBUS and Comfort in a separate environment gives
quite =
a contrast - it just does everything so well! I miss the Echo to
cont=
rol lights - (so may go down the route Paul describes, but it
seems su=
ch a faff!), but Comfort even makes X10 work. I'm not sure I'd
add ST=
to this system (even if I had the broadband), as I think the extra gimicky=
functionality would come at a massive reduction to reliability and
WAF.<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Pete<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div>
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