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Hi Marcus,
May get back to you off list on that. Will try=20
some Usb to cat 5 extenders first.
Thnx
Peter
At 16:09 03/06/2014, you wrote:
>
>
>Peter,
>
>
>
>I seem to remember that the RS845 module was=20
>around =A3105 but I can't remember with absolute=20
>certainty. I do remember that he originally=20
>bought the wrong RS485 module and spent about an=20
>hour on installation day trying to figure out=20
>how to fit it. In the end he had to leave and=20
>promised he'd find the correct version for me.=20
>He did eventually find the correct version but=20
>was so busy with other installs that it took=20
>about 6months before he eventually found time to=20
>come back and fit it. By this time I'd come up=20
>with the raspberry Pi Bluetooth solution.
>
>
>
>As regards "re homing" it, the problem would be=20
>removing it as it would require opening up the=20
>inverter to remove it. I seem to remember that=20
>it just screws on and a small ribbon cable=20
>connected it to the main motherboard but I'd=20
>have to check. I guess it depends what it's worth it to you.
>
>
>
>Marcus
>
>
>
>From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 03 June 2014 13:18
>To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ukha_d] SMA PV inverter
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Marcus,
>
>Plenty of cat 5 there. House consumed nearly 1.5 km!
>
>My recollection was that the RS 485 module was hideously expensive!
>
>Does your raspberry pi solution mean you have an=20
>RS 485 for "re homing" by any chance?
>
>Rgds
>
>Peter
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>
>On 3 Jun 2014, at 10:11, "Marcus Warrington=20
><mailto:marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx>marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx=20
>[ukha_d]" <<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>
>
>Peter,
>
>
>
>Another potential solution if you can get a cat5=20
>wire to it is to use the RS485 board that's=20
>available for that Inverter. We had one fitted=20
>(Bluetooth is still available after fitting) but=20
>I never got around to hooking it up because=20
>after setting up the raspberry pi I found it to=20
>be better , more reliable , solution than=20
>running the software (sunny explorer) on the main server.
>
>
>
>Marcus
>
>
>
>From:=20
><mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>[mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 02 June 2014 11:01
>To: <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] SMA PV inverter
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks Marcus
>Problem is Inverter is on garage wall 20m away=20
>with ali foil covered insulation between.
>I have been running with a couple of amplified=20
>usb cables end to end, but that is a bit flakey.
>Good idea about usb extenders on cat5. Will try that.
>Rgds
>Peter
>
>At 09:18 02/06/2014, you wrote:
>
>
>
>Peter,
>
>
>
>We have the same inverter and had the BT power=20
>increased. It's set via the Sunny Explorer=20
>software but unfortunately it's not one of the=20
>settings available to the "user" login and you=20
>need to log in with the installer/admin pin to be able to change it.
>
>
>
>I'm not sure how you can gain admin access=20
>without the installer telling you the pin he=20
>setup. Even if you found another friendly=20
>installer he would need to know the PIN that=20
>your original installer setup. You could try=20
>ringing SMA support , maybe they have a super user pin or something ?
>
>
>
>Why do you want to increase it ? If it's simply=20
>to log data onto a PC then you could always move=20
>the actual BT dongle closer to the inverter=20
>using some USB extenders over Cat5.=20
>Alternatively (like me) you setup a Raspberry Pi=20
>with a BT dongle close to the inverter and then=20
>have it do the capture (via PVCCUpload) and=20
>upload the data the PVOutput website for=20
>graphing. Here's a link to our PVOutput solar=20
>generation ;=20
><http://www.pvoutput.org/intraday.jsp?sid=3D2970&dt>http://www.pvoutput.or=
g/intraday.jsp?sid=3D2970&dt=3D
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Marcus
>
>
>
>From:=20
><mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
>[ mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: 01 June 2014 12:48
>To: <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>Subject: [ukha_d] SMA PV inverter
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi all,
>Been quiet, but I am still lurking and nursing my X10etc, Sonos,
>multiple tvs, gshp and solar!
>PV inverter question.
>We have an SMD Sunny Boy SB4000Tl-20. I believe there is an installer
>option to increase the bluetooth power.
>Does anyone on the list know how to do it?
>My installer, who has gone to ground anyway, had no idea.
>Any clues?
>Thanks
>Peter
>
>
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Hi Marcus, <br>
May get back to you off list on that. Will try some Usb to cat 5
extenders first.<br>
Thnx<br>
Peter<br><br>
At 16:09 03/06/2014, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">
<br><br>
Peter,<br><br>
<br><br>
I seem to remember that the RS845 module was around =A3105 but I can't
remember with absolute certainty. I do remember that he originally bought
the wrong RS485 module and spent about an hour on installation day trying
to figure out how to fit it. In the end he had to leave and promised he'd
find the correct version for me. He did eventually find the correct
version but was so busy with other installs that it took about 6months
before he eventually found time to come back and fit it. By this time I'd
come up with the raspberry Pi Bluetooth solution.<br><br>
<br><br>
As regards "re homing" it, the problem would be removing
it as
it would require opening up the inverter to remove it. I seem to remember
that it just screws on and a small ribbon cable connected it to the main
motherboard but I'd have to check. I guess it depends what it's
worth it to you.<br><br>
<br><br>
<b>Marcus <br>
</b><br>
<br><br>
<b>From:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx
[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
eudora=3D"autourl">
mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 June 2014 13:18<br>
<b>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] SMA PV
inverter<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
Hi Marcus,<br><br>
Plenty of cat 5 there. House consumed nearly 1.5 km!<br><br>
My recollection was that the RS 485 module was hideously
expensive!<br><br>
Does your raspberry pi solution mean you have an RS 485 for "re
homing" by any chance?<br><br>
Rgds <br><br>
Peter<br><br>
Sent from my iPad<br><br>
<br>
On 3 Jun 2014, at 10:11, "Marcus Warrington
<a href=3D"mailto:marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx";>
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d]"
<<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
> wrote:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Peter,<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Another potential solution if you can get a cat5 wire to it is to
use
the RS485 board that's available for that Inverter. We had one fitted
(Bluetooth is still available after fitting) but I never got around to
hooking it up because after setting up the raspberry pi I found it to be
better , more reliable , solution than running the software (sunny
explorer) on the main server.<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Marcus <br>
</b><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
eudora=3D"autourl">
mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> 02 June 2014 11:01<br>
<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<dd>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] SMA PV
inverter<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Thanks Marcus<br>
<dd>Problem is Inverter is on garage wall 20m away with ali foil
covered
insulation between.<br>
<dd>I have been running with a couple of amplified usb cables end to
end,
but that is a bit flakey.<br>
<dd>Good idea about usb extenders on cat5. Will try that.<br>
<dd>Rgds<br>
<dd>Peter<br><br>
<dd>At 09:18 02/06/2014, you wrote:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Peter,<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>We have the same inverter and had the BT power increased. It's
set
via the Sunny Explorer software but unfortunately it's not one of the
settings available to the "user" login and you need to
log in
with the installer/admin pin to be able to change it. <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>I'm not sure how you can gain admin access without the installer
telling you the pin he setup. Even if you found another friendly
installer he would need to know the PIN that your original installer
setup. You could try ringing SMA support , maybe they have a super user
pin or something ?<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Why do you want to increase it ? If it's simply to log data onto
a PC
then you could always move the actual BT dongle closer to the inverter
using some USB extenders over Cat5. Alternatively (like me) you setup a
Raspberry Pi with a BT dongle close to the inverter and then have it do
the capture (via PVCCUpload) and upload the data the PVOutput website for
graphing. Here's a link to our PVOutput solar generation ;
<a href=3D"http://www.pvoutput.org/intraday.jsp?sid=3D2970&dt";>
http://www.pvoutput.org/intraday.jsp?sid=3D2970&dt</a>=3D<br>
<br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Marcus <br>
</b><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
eudora=3D"autourl">
</a><a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
eudora=3D"autourl">
mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> 01 June 2014 12:48<br>
<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<dd>Subject:</b> [ukha_d] SMA PV inverter<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Hi all,<br>
<dd>Been quiet, but I am still lurking and nursing my X10etc, Sonos,
<br>
<dd>multiple tvs, gshp and solar!<br>
<dd>PV inverter question.<br>
<dd>We have an SMD Sunny Boy SB4000Tl-20. I believe there is an
installer
<br>
<dd>option to increase the bluetooth power.<br>
<dd>Does anyone on the list know how to do it?<br>
<dd>My installer, who has gone to ground anyway, had no
idea.<br>
<dd>Any clues?<br>
<dd>Thanks<br>
<dd>Peter<br><br>
</dl>
</dl></blockquote>
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