RE: Mobile broadband and CCTV

[Nigel Giddings <nigel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim,

I don't have any experience of Vigor routers with dongles, although found
them to be top notch when we used ADSL.

The coverage maps have finite resolution so wouldn't rely on them too
much. Do you know where your local serving site it? Do you have Line of
Sight or Near Line of Sight. Being 2.1GHz radio it doesn't bend very well
(although it can reflect quite nicely).

You can get an idea of what is in your area using this web-site but again
not fully reliable http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/

My solution has the router/dongle 20 ft in the air which means I get a
reasonable signal, there is no signal at all at my house.

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Reviews/My-Automated-Home-Nigel-Giddings-In
stalling-Broadband-in-a-Rural-Location.html

If signal strength is an issue I have heard people get good results with
these

http://www.deltenna.com/products/wibe.aspx

HTH

Nigel

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tim Hawes
Sent: 13 April 2012 22:59
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Mobile broadband and CCTV

Nigel, Peter,

Many thanks for the feedback.
I was considering using a USB dongle with a Vigor router and a 3 sim card.
Unfortunately none of the network coverage maps are particularly great the
property's street although 2 roads away has "perfect" coverage...

The other property isn't too far away either so if it only stays up for a
week between reboots that's manageable. It's also only for a few months,
not worth a separate land line, so I will give the pre-paid SIMs a try.
3GB valid for 3 months for ~=A311, vs a one month rolling contract for
=A37=
.50
for a 1GB allowance.

Thanks again, I'll report back with what I find.

Cheers,
Tim.


On 10 April 2012 17:17, Peter Church <yahoo@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I do just that, so have some experience.
>
> I have a Huawei B260 3G router rather than a dongle, and on the
> network I have Comfort, a low power Aleutia PC (running my 1-wire
> stuff and allowing access to WizComfort etc) and the CCTV DVR.
>
> To start with I have to admit that my connection is not good as I am
> in a very rural area in Ireland and have a booster installed (which
> I'm not sure makes much difference, but it has a smashing blue light!)
>
> So, the minimum data registered on a daily basis is 0.05Mb, which
> presumably is just "ticking over".  On days when the PC
sends a
> temperature update e-mail (500kb) this seems to rise to about 1.5Mb
> (presumably due to the poor
> connection)
>
> As for accessing CCTV - I do not do it very often, and have also had
> to abort the idea of accessing the DVR directly via a DynDNS server
> because of problems getting the ports to forward correctly over the
mobile broadband.
> Instead I use Teamviewer to access the remote PC and run locally from
> there.
> This probably might give a better internet utilisation because
> TeamViewer adapts the quality to connection speed, whereas the DVR
probably won=92t.
>
> So, in the month when I had just finished commissioning the system and
> returned home and probably used the CCTV the most (about 10 days
> visiting) I used a total of 1.2Gb.  Now one day accounts for about
> half of that and I cannot remember what I did that day to make it so
> high.
>
> Hope that helps.  When I get my next bill I'll have a closer look as I
> know when I've looked at things most recently.
>
> P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Nigel Giddings
> Sent: 10 April 2012 15:05
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Mobile broadband and CCTV
>
> Tim,
>
>
>
> I use mobile broadband for my home (and business) but have no
> experience with CCTV over the link.
>
>
>
> Can=92t comment on the amount of data you=92ll require, I manage to
use
> 25GB plus a month=85
>
>
>
> What I would say is that the typical router with USB dongle can be
> quite unreliable with the link =91freezing=92 several times a week,
> although it has been known to run for weeks without issue. The problem
> appears worse if the link is idle for long periods=85 I suspect it is
> Mobile Network related, it could be maintenance activities or some
> sort of IP allocation issue or possibly a firmware issue in the
dongles
I have been using (supplied by 3).
>
>
>
> If you decide to go this route you may want to consider some sort of
> hard reset on the power if ping fails, units are available but cost
> circa =A3100=85
>
>
>
> As I live on site and the router is 300 metres from the house I have
> found I can reach the router and reboot remotely over the LAN but this
> doesn=92t reboot the dongle as the power is not disconnected. As such
I
> cannot remotely reset the 3G part which usually involves driving up
> the garden in my dressing gown some mornings to flick the power switch
> on/off which then solves the issue=85 Yes it typically happen late
night
> / early morning=85
>
>
>
> I suppose what I am saying is you need to look at a better 3G modem
> than just a simple dongle if you want it to stay connected for
> extended periods, weeks rather than days. I also believe a number of
> the latest routers now have a full reboot facility for the dongles
> because of the inadequacies of the dongles.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> *From:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Hawes
> *Sent:* 10 April 2012 14:06
> *To:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [ukha_d] Mobile broadband and CCTV
>
>
>
>
>
> Perhaps this has been covered before, but:
>
> I'm thinking of putting cctv up at (effectively) a holiday cottage.
> There's no fixed line broadband so was wondering whether a mobile
> dongle would be suitable.
> Obviously how long 1GB a month will last will partly depend on how
> often you dial in and view, but how much of the data allowance would
> be used up in just maintaining an "always on" connection?
>
> Does anyone have direct experience of "operating" of cctv
over mobile
> broadband?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim.
>
>


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