Re: Re: CBus Touch Screens and CBus Wiser

[Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Paul,

I assume your  C-Gate is attached to C-Bus already using a non Wiser
interface - e.g. a standalone PCI or CNI interface ?   If so this will
have no effect on Wiser.

Attaching C-Gate via the CNI within the Wiser unit would remove the CNI
from being available to Wiser so none of the C-Bus web interface
functionality would then work.  C-Gate uses the C-Bus connection
extensively and frequently and also initialises and sequences commands
through the interface in a different mode so there is no possibility of
sharing C-Gate's C-Bus connection with anything else.  If  however your
connection is to C-Gate direct (eg the Pronto) then it will happily
handle multiple connections for you.

From the docs for the Wiser Web interface:
"The wrench icon means that the Wiser Home Controller is currently  in
CNI mode meaning that the device is being used as a CNI and thus the web
browser control will not function until the CNI mode is disconnected.
Once CNI mode is disconnected the wrench icon will disappear, and the
Wiser Home Controller can be used like normal."

I am not sure if all functionality of the web interface is lost when in
CNI mode (certainly any C-Bus interaction is) but maybe some widgets
like the RSS displayed data or other non C-Bus information might still
update.

K

On 22/02/2010 14:48, paul_watkin wrote:
> Many thanks for your reply Paul, it looks like it should do everything
I need although I do have an additional quick question for those people
using Wiser.
>
> If I read the previous messages correctly the web access etc stops if
the CNI is in Toolkit mode.
>
> I am using a couple of Pronto 9600's and they are using the pronto
application that connects to C-Gate (which runs remotely on my whs box) in
order to control lighting functions.
>
> Will this still work okay in parallel to the wiser control or will the
Wiser interpret any input from C-Gate as forcing it to CNI mode and
cancelling all other connections.
>
> Not sure I explained the question well but hope you get the idea.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Pauls
Hotmail"<paul_gordon@...>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I'm not very far into my Wiser forays, I've only had one for a few
days, and
>> thus far haven't been able to get it fully functional (overly
complicated
>> setup requirements don't even begin to cover it!), but in the
process I have
>> discovered a number of things which address some of your
queries...
>>
>> The wiser router is for the most part, a perfectly standard
Ethernet LAN/WAN
>> router, with a little bit extra tacked on to provide the wiser
>> functionality. As far as the router config is concerned, I've
poked around
>> in mine and pretty much everything you would normally expect to
find in a
>> modern day broadband router is there, and is configurable. It does
appear to
>> support uPNP configuration if required - the option is there in
the
>> interface, although I don't use it. If WHS requires/supports uPNP
for router
>> config, then I imagine it should work fine...
>>
>> Some of the complication alluded to in my opening paragraph arises
from the
>> fact that it is designed to slot into an existing network in a
number of
>> different ways, one of which absolutely is the scenario you
describe where
>> it REPLACES your existing broadband router. - If that suits your
needs that
>> it absolutely should work in that way. - For me it didn't suit,
since the
>> wiser router doesn't have an inbuilt VPN server (it has VPN
*pass-through*)
>> and I make extensive use of the ability to VPN into my vigor to
get on my
>> home network. Giving that up would require that I configure a VPN
service
>> somewhere on my LAN to replace the functionality currently
provided by the
>> vigor.
>>
>> I don't have any CBUS touchscreens, so I can't offer any opinion
on the
>> integration (or not) between those&  Wiser.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Paul G.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of paul_watkin
>>> Sent: 16 February 2010 14:19
>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ukha_d] CBus Touch Screens and CBus Wiser
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am trying to read up on the capabilities of the Wiser module
and
>>> don't appear to be getting very far on specifics.
>>>
>>> Is Wiser capable of having it's router settings configured
either
>>> manually or pref automatically to work with Windows Home
server? WHS
>>> doesn't get on with my Vigor router at all and remote access
is non
>>> existent.
>>>
>>> I assume the Wiser just plugs into my network where my
existing Vigor
>>> router is and I supply it with an Ethernet cable from an ADSL
modem?
>>>
>>> The marketing blurb keeps talking about interfacing it to a
security
>>> system yet I can find no information on how this achieved or
what alarm
>>> panels are supported, anyone got any info on this? Or any of
the other
>>> third party devices supported?
>>>
>>> I currently have a Mk2 black and White touchscreen in the
lounge, is
>>> there a way of loading the Wiser template onto this to keep
consistent
>>> look and feel or does the Wiser only work if you have a colour
>>> touchscreen?
>>>
>>> I will need to buy another Touchscreen very shortly, does
anyone know
>>> anything about the Ctouch spectrum that Kevin posted on the
Cbus forums
>>> about?
>>>
>>> In the next 3 weeks the room will be decorated and I will have
no
>>> option but to use the Black White screen as SWMBO will murder
me if I
>>> start cutting holes in her new wallpaper, so any info greatly
>>> appreciated!!
>>>
>>> At the moment I don't think I will make use of all of the
remote acces
>>> features of the Wiser (though I might in the future) and I am
trying to
>>> weigh up the value add in simplifying the ammount of kit in
the garage.
>>>
>>> I'll be able to ditch the access point that's used for the
pronto's,
>>> get rid of the lantronix adaptor / CBUS PC interface and gain
>>> scheduling and logic functionality - although was going to buy
a logic
>>> screen this time.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts / inputs welcome
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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