Re: Re: Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5, etc etc

[Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Lee

Check back in the archives as I remember someone solving the exact
problem by using a patch panel to bring the comfort connections out of
main enclosure.

Regards
Ben McCormack

On 5 Oct 2009, at 17:41, "leewild80" <muddyboots@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Ian
>
> I suspect many are in the same boat as me - they generally like to
> do a neat job, but when it came to hooking everything up inside the
> Comfort box, that went out of the window and they're too embarrassed
> to put photos up :)
>
> I just have the one enclosure, with the main boards, expansion
> board, X10 adapter (& coiled up cable), battery, transformer, all
> hidden behind a rats nest of alarm cables & connector blocks from
> PIRs etc. I think the problem is there's nowhere left to fasten all
> the wires or connector blocks to in a tidy fashion.
>
> I reckon a more sensible approach might be:
> Have one enclosure that contains the boards, battery, transformer etc.
> Then have a second enclosure that acts as the wiring centre - put a
> load of Krone blocks or similar in it, with permanent connections
> across to all the available input, output, 12v and 0v connections in
> the main box. Then do all the messy patching of alarm & cat5
cables
> into Krone blocks in this box. Gives more space for some sensible
> cable management - kind of a mini node zero box for Comfort.
>
> Lee
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "ianh1000" <ianh1000@...>
wrote:
>> I know we have a lot of comfort users here, does anyone have some
>> photos of a very tidy installation? I would really like my one to
>> be a bit neater.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Paul Gale <groups2@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Soldering wire for insertion possibly(?) not a great idea
though
>>> as solder can flow over time and can cause loose connections -
>>> don't know if that'd be an issue here though?
>>>
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of ianh1000
>>>> Sent: 05 October 2009 13:17
>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5, etc
etc
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lee
>>>>
>>>> I have the same challenge with my setup. These look a neat
>>>> solution but
>>>> I doubt they would be reliable with stranded cable, I
guess you
>>>> could
>>>> tin the strands with a little solder.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Paul Gale <groups2@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also be interested in this - I have a similar
>>>>> arrangement of
>>>> 3A term blocks (lots!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of leewild80
>>>>>> Sent: 05 October 2009 12:39
>>>>>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5,
etc etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Comfort system, with inputs from a number
of PIRs -
>>>>>> all of
>>>>>> which share 12v and 0v connections.
>>>>>> Comfort itself only provides single 12v/0v
connections, so
>>>> currently I
>>>>>> have a not-very-ideal setup where the various PIR
wires are
>>>>>> twisted
>>>>>> together & shared across several ways in a
3-amp connector block,
>>>> and
>>>>>> in the other side of the connector block I have
daisy chained
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> wires across to common them together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It works but it's really not ideal, not only
because it's messy
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> hell, but screw connectors on stranded wires are
not very
>>>>>> reliable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have been wondering about a better solution for a
while, like
>>>> connector
>>>>>> strips with leaf contacts and insulated combs for
commoning
>>>> together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then I happened across another thread on here
where people
>>>> mention
>>>>>> using Krone blocks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A bit of searching suggests a couple of Krone 237D
blocks might
>>>>>> be
>>>> an
>>>>>> ideal and neat solution - they have a flying lead
that I could
>>>> connect
>>>>>> to Comfort's 12v and 0v, and all the terminals
within the block
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> commoned together. They even come in red and black
:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few questions if I may:
>>>>>> 1) Does this seem a sensible idea ?
>>>>>> 2) I presume I can use the standard Krone-type
punchdown tool
>>>>>> that
>>>> I
>>>>>> bought for wiring cat5 faceplates ?
>>>>>> 3) Do the blocks work reliably with stranded
6-core alarm cable ?
>>>>>> 4) Do the blocks work reliably with the solid
cores of cat5e
>>>>>> cable
>>>> ?
>>>>>> 5) And (dumb question) - "normal" (237A)
Krone connectors - are
>>>>>> terminals on both sides of these linked across so
they act just
>>>> like a
>>>>>> connector block ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any help !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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