Re: Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5, etc etc

["leewild80" <muddyboots@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ian

I suspect many are in the same boat as me - they generally like to do a
neat job, but when it came to hooking everything up inside the Comfort box,
that went out of the window and they're too embarrassed to put photos up :)

I just have the one enclosure, with the main boards, expansion board, X10
adapter (& coiled up cable), battery, transformer, all hidden behind a
rats nest of alarm cables & connector blocks from PIRs etc. I think the
problem is there's nowhere left to fasten all the wires or connector blocks
to in a tidy fashion.

I reckon a more sensible approach might be:
Have one enclosure that contains the boards, battery, transformer etc.
Then have a second enclosure that acts as the wiring centre - put a load of
Krone blocks or similar in it, with permanent connections across to all the
available input, output, 12v and 0v connections in the main box. Then do
all the messy patching of alarm & cat5 cables into Krone blocks in this
box. Gives more space for some sensible cable management - kind of a mini
node zero box for Comfort.

Lee

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "ianh1000" <ianh1000@...> wrote:
> I know we have a lot of comfort users here, does anyone have some
photos of a very tidy installation? I would really like my one to be a bit
neater.
>
> Regards
> Ian
>
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Paul Gale <groups2@> wrote:
> >
> > Soldering wire for insertion possibly(?) not a great idea though
as solder can flow over time and can cause loose connections - don't know
if that'd be an issue here though?
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of ianh1000
> > > Sent: 05 October 2009 13:17
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5, etc
etc
> > >
> > > Hi Lee
> > >
> > > I have the same challenge with my setup. These look a neat
solution but
> > > I doubt they would be reliable with stranded cable, I guess
you could
> > > tin the strands with a little solder.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Paul Gale <groups2@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would also be interested in this - I have a similar
arrangement of
> > > 3A term blocks (lots!)
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of leewild80
> > > > > Sent: 05 October 2009 12:39
> > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [ukha_d] Krone blocks, alarm cable, cat5,
etc etc
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Comfort system, with inputs from a number
of PIRs - all of
> > > > > which share 12v and 0v connections.
> > > > > Comfort itself only provides single 12v/0v
connections, so
> > > currently I
> > > > > have a not-very-ideal setup where the various PIR
wires are twisted
> > > > > together & shared across several ways in a
3-amp connector block,
> > > and
> > > > > in the other side of the connector block I have
daisy chained some
> > > > > wires across to common them together.
> > > > >
> > > > > It works but it's really not ideal, not only
because it's messy as
> > > > > hell, but screw connectors on stranded wires are
not very reliable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have been wondering about a better solution for a
while, like
> > > connector
> > > > > strips with leaf contacts and insulated combs for
commoning
> > > together.
> > > > >
> > > > > But then I happened across another thread on here
where people
> > > mention
> > > > > using Krone blocks.
> > > > >
> > > > > A bit of searching suggests a couple of Krone 237D
blocks might be
> > > an
> > > > > ideal and neat solution - they have a flying lead
that I could
> > > connect
> > > > > to Comfort's 12v and 0v, and all the terminals
within the block are
> > > > > commoned together. They even come in red and black
:)
> > > > >
> > > > > A few questions if I may:
> > > > > 1) Does this seem a sensible idea ?
> > > > > 2) I presume I can use the standard Krone-type
punchdown tool that
> > > I
> > > > > bought for wiring cat5 faceplates ?
> > > > > 3) Do the blocks work reliably with stranded
6-core alarm cable ?
> > > > > 4) Do the blocks work reliably with the solid
cores of cat5e cable
> > > ?
> > > > > 5) And (dumb question) - "normal" (237A)
Krone connectors - are
> > > > > terminals on both sides of these linked across so
they act just
> > > like a
> > > > > connector block ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any help !
> > > > >
> > > > > Lee
> > > > >
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