RE: Clipsal integration

["Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxxxx>]

:) It was only the last para meant with any sinicism

I'm genuinely pleased that Cbus is getting recognised by the AV people. I
love Cbus to bits and its still our prefered control system. We've dabled
with a couple of others, Rako, Anylight, but Cbus is still head and
shoulders above them for flexibility/programmability and cost - but you
know
that already !!

I don't think Clipsal UK (as was) or Schneider have done much to promote
the
brand as an integratable residential product. Let alone keep Integrators
upto date with new product releases ;)

I remember a Netstreams training day at least 3 years ago, maybe more, and
was amazed to see a US product with Rako integration out of the box. Rako
seems to have been far more pro-active in ensuring their product worked
with
everybody elses system - Opus/Living Control/Netstreams/Systemline etc. all
of which have been doing it for years.

I'd love to think that Clipsal/Schneider are responsible for these new
drivers appearing, but I would hazard a guess not....




Dean.



-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Phil Harris
Sent: 27 March 2009 10:04
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Clipsal integration

I guess you just needed to get that off your chest eh Dean? ;-)

Yeah - Schneider don't really do "marketing" as such - it's an
industrial
giant and doesn't generally have to market its products.

Of course there is no "Clipsal UK" - it simply doesn't exist.
(Which of
course you know as you deal directly with the Schneider reps etc.) I'm sure
there will be complaints about me saying it but there simply is no
"Clipsal
UK" - it's just a brand name within the Schneider portfolio - nobody
works
for "Clipsal" in the UK, there is no building with "Clipsal
UK" above the
door, there are no payslips with "Clipsal UK" on them. C-Bus was
simply one
of thousands of products (in addition to product lines like G.E.T which
you'll find in the big DIY chains) being handled by RSS (Residential)
within
Schneider.

That's one of the main reasons why I left there, to RSS C-Bus was just
another product to sell whereas when I joined it was "owned" by
T-BIS
(Transparent Buildings Integrated Systems) and they were a great group of
guys who really loved that product and really were interested in making it
fly. Most of them *WERE* ex "Clipsal UK" guys from the days when
it did
exist (before it became assimilated into the Schneider empire) but T-BIS
was
dissolved and C-Bus (and I) got moved over to RSS. Only one of us was able
to get out of RSS on our own. ;-)

Now C-Bus is back with BSS (commercial) though - and some of those guys are
the ex-T-BIS guys and I'm still in touch with them. Bloody good bunch of
blokes!

As for C-Bus support, well NaimNet and NetStreams have had C-Bus drivers
available for them since about three months after I started at my current
job. :-D

Phil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dean Barrett
> Sent: 27 March 2009 08:05
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Clipsal integration
>
> It seems CBus is finally hitting critical mass levels with the AV
> companies.
>
> Armour announced today that CBus control is available from their
> Modular Touchscreen system.
>
> Control 4 are currently working on their driver.
>
> Opus and others already have CBus connectivity out of the box.
>
> Its amazing that for years everytime i mentioned CBus to AV people
> they looked at me quizzically as if it was some kind of backwater
> product that no one would ever use.
>
> It must be all that marketing that Clipsal UK are doing thats
> increasing CBus's visability </SARCASM>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dean.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


------------------------------------