RE: Adding CCTV

["Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxxxx>]

Would you not be able to utilise the IO on the back - havent looked at
them
in great detail myself.




Dean.
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-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ben McCormack
Sent: 05 February 2009 11:37
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Adding CCTV

Dean

I would need to find a way of interfacing this with Comfort or Homeseer. I
think that would be the downfall

Ben

On 5 Feb 2009, at  11:31, Dean Barrett wrote:

>
> If you're looking at little webservers - look at the Vivotek VS2403
> - I use
> one at the office for easy display of CCTV camera's to multiple=20
> desktops and PC output to AMX touchscreens.
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> I also have one at home that I record on a PC running Blue Iris
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> software - all works out much cheaper that the Axis web server.
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> Dean.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf=20
> Of Ben McCormack
> Sent: 05 February 2009 11:22
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Adding CCTV
>
> Sounds like Geovision could be the way to go.
>
> I have also found an Axis video server that fits the bill=20
> http://www.axis.com/products/cam_241qa/index.htm
>  but it is around =A3700.
>
> I do have some concerns on Geovision
>
> 1. It will need another dedicated PC. I was trying to be PC free
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> just a Mac server but now need Homeseer PC and Geovision.
> 2. Not sure about Geovision detecting motion. I don't want to
confuse=20
> matters. Comfort will fill that function for me.
>
>
> Paul - My choices are partially down to you!
>
> Ben
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2009, at  10:48, Paul Gordon wrote:
>
>> Absolutely! - piece of the proverbial p*ss with comfort...
>>
>> Connect up the bell-press switch to comfort as an input, connect
up
>> the contact sensor on the door to comfort as an input. I even have
a
>> PIR in the porch facing the front path, so I sense approaching
>> visitors a little before they actually reach the door - this gives
a
>> little extra time for processing logic, and thus a more
"immediate"
>> response...
>>
>> Comfort then knows:
>> - when someone is approaching the door, before they get there
>> (regardless of whether they rang the bell or not)
>> - when the doorbell is pressed.
>> - when the door is opened.
>> - when the door is closed.
>>
>> note that I have a PIR immediately inside *AND* outside the front
>> door, so if I could be *rsed to deduce the logic & write the
code, I
>> could do all kinds of clever things based on whether the door was
>> opened in response to a caller, or because an occupant is leaving
the
>> house etc.
>>
>> Once that information is in comfort, you can do anything in
response
>> to it that comfort can do. This includes switching CCTV cameras,
and
>> there used to be numerous examples of this of the Comfort web
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>> It
>> would be utter simplicity to have it power on the camera - you
would
>> need to take care of ensuring that whatever CCTV system you have
in
>> place can respond appropriately; - i.e. as soon as it starts=20=20
>> receiving
>> video from that camera, it needs to start recording... It also
needs
>> to not complain about "lost feed" when you power the
camera down
>> again...
>>
>> In my case, I use comfort to do some of the things that it is best
at
>> (turn on porch lights if its dark etc.), but I also communicate
these
>> conditions immediately into Homeseer via the comfort-homeseer
plugin,
>> and do additional logic there, including sending an email to my
>> mailbox, pausing any playing SONOS zones if the bell is pressed,
etc.
>> (It could also provide TTS announcements over any/all SONOS
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>> if I
>> wanted...)
>>
>> I also have a CCTV camera at the front door, but that currently
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>> not
>> fully integrated into the above. It is connected to a GeoVision
>> server, which has motion detection (with complete freedom to mask
>> areas of the image etc.) so this automatically records when
someone
>> approaches the door, and emails me a still. (I could also have it
>> upload the still to an FTP site etc.) GeoVision have some I/O
modules
>> available that can be triggered by the motion detection, so I plan
to
>> fit one or two of these and connect its output channels to comfort
>> inputs so it will then be able to signal comfort as soon as
movement
>> is detected by any camera (one channel per camera allows me to
tell
>> comfort exactly which camera has seen motion). This effectively
will
>> allow me to use the cameras as additional comfort sensors, with
>> *excellent* discrimination in the detection area (far easier than
>> trying to tune a PIR to only see movement in a specified area).
Then
>> the detection of movement by a camera will become a comfort
trigger,
>> and can instigate any comfort (and thus additionally Homeseer)
>> response that I want.
>>
>> Once the in-beta Homeseer Touch software is available, that would
>> include the ability to push out a customised screen display with
>> either a still, or streamed live feed from the CCTV, and any log
>> information that you want, - exactly as described in your
question.
>>
>> You could also pass the info from Homeseer into xAP/xPL and use
that
>> to drive any number of additional display devices around the
house. I
>> don't know if there are any direct Comfort-xAP/xPL interfaces
>> available (I'm not aware of any), but a UCM-xAP/xPL would be a
useful
>> device I think...
>>
>> BTW: Your choices are all good ones:-
>>
>> CBUS - Just works
>> Comfort - Just works
>> SONOS - Just works
>> Homeseer - If you do it *properly* it pretty much also does
"just
>> work"
>> with a fairly high degree of reliability (IME).
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Paul G.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Ben McCormack
>>> Sent: 05 February 2009 10:08
>>> To: UKHA Group
>>> Subject: [ukha_d] Adding CCTV
>>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> As you have read I have decided to go down the
cbus/comfort/sonos=20=20
>>> and
>>> possibly homeseer route for my HA system. Things are
progressing=20=20
>>> well
>>> but slowly.
>>>
>>> Now I had thought about CCTV in the past but was never sure
but this
>>> morning I found a site that has made me rethink
>>> http://www.bwired.nl/Doorimages.asp
>>>
>>> There is a camera at the front door that is linked to the
doorbell
>>> and also the contact sensor on the door.
>>>
>>> So it takes a picture and gives the following readout
>>>
>>> Doorbell pushed On Saturday 31 January 2009 - 19:57:42  Door
Opened
>>> On 19:57:53  After 11 Seconds  For 8 Seconds
>>>
>>> Now the system to do this is home written so is not an option
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>>> me.
>>>
>>> Has anyone got anything similar working
>>>
>>> Action : Comfort Doorbell pressed
>>> Response : Camera turns on and records for 2 min or until door
is
>>> opened and closed.
>>>
>>> Any help or pointers appreciated.
>>>
>>> Ben
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