Re: Cbus Control of plug in lamps.

["Ben McCormack" <yahoogroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jon

I am considering a sub node zero but really like the idea of bringing all
wires back to one location.

Ben

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "JonS" <semi.jon@...> wrote:
>
> HI Ben
>
> I used ordinary 13A sockets even where I planned table lamps and hence
1.5mm cable.  This gives me the flexibility to swap use later, I am using
relays protected by MCBs.  I think ordinary sockets are cheaper than round
pin too.  A sticker to remind you not to plug anyting other than a lamp in
if it is connected to a dimmer, or reserve round pin for dimmers only.
>
> You can dim CFLs check out Digiflux - not cheap but interesting.
>
> I gave up worrying about the number of cables for the lounge and just
re-routed the cables back to a separate Distribution Point closer to the
lounge than Node0 to which the 7.1 speaker cable also went.  Friends eyes
boggled but it works well and the bundle of cables will be hidden.
>
> HTH
> JonS
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@> wrote:
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> > I will have 6 lamp points in the lounge split into 3 zones (1*3,
1*2
> > and 1*1) at minimum.
> >
> > I think I will put them on relays. Over time I may plug different
> > lights into the outlets and some of them may be low energy and
not dim-
> > able. This also gets over the problem of overloading an
individual
> > dimmer.
> >
> > I am happy to run each socket back individually my only concern
is the
> > number of wires I will need to run for the lounge
> >
> > 6 for lamp sockets
> > 6 for ceiling lights
> > around 24 cat 5 points
> >
> > Regards
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14 Apr 2009, at  19:45, Nigel Giddings wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ben,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have used 5A round pin plugs sockets for table lamps and
standard
> > > lamps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have run most back individually to provide each one
individual
> > > control, however, in the dinning room I do have two table
lamps with 3
> > > bulbs in each (6 bulbs in total) on the same channel.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If your room is big enough to have 3 lights on the same
circuit you
> > > may
> > > want to consider the possible load. If you are planning on
some form
> > > of
> > > energy efficient light you may as well use C-Bus relays,
however if
> > > you
> > > plan to use incandescent lamps you need to be careful of
what bulbs
> > > are
> > > installed if you use the 1A C-Bus dimmer modules as these
will only
> > > support 230W of power. If someone was to install three 100W
bulbs (or
> > > the fittings took multiple bulbs) you could exceed the
dimmer
> > > rating. It
> > > is recommended that 1A MCBs are installed between the Load
and the
> > > Dimmers which may offer protection but this could then
result in
> > > nuisance tripping...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have found it better to install more powerful bulbs than
required
> > > and
> > > then to dim them to appropriate levels, something that you
will fine
> > > tune as you live with the space and get used to the
surroundings.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I spent a long time trying to balance my lighting loads
between 1A &
> > > 2A
> > > C-Bus dimmers and 10A Helvar (controlled by C-Bus)
dimmers...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nigel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of Ben McCormack
> > > Sent: 14 April 2009 13:57
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Cbus Control of plug in lamps.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All
> > >
> > > I have started to consider the lighting layout for the
lounge and
> > > how I
> > > am going to use cbus to control it all.
> > >
> > > I wanted to check how other people have wired table/plug-in
lamps and
> > > light into cbus.
> > >
> > > I am thinking of this
> > >
> > > 5 Amp Round Pin Lighting Sockets -
> > > http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK0771.html
> > > <http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK0771.html>
> > > and
> > > 5 Amp Round pin plugs on each light
> > > http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLPT5.html
> > > <http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLPT5.html>
> > >
> > > I was going to wire 3 of these Sockets in series using 1mm
sq twin and
> > > earth.
> > >
> > > I am planning on having 3 of these 3 socket circuits in the
lounge.
> > > Each
> > > of them will be wired into a Dimmer or more likely a relay
circuit on
> > > cbus.
> > >
> > > Is this how everyone else has done it?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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