RE: Re: dimmable CFL

["Phil Harris" <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Can I also suggest that we nail down the definition of a "normal"
dimmer
switch?

Is that a "normal" potentiometer dimmer or a "normal"
electronic dimmer -
the two aren't the same. ;-)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of wywywywywywywywywywy
> Sent: 03 October 2007 08:31
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: dimmable CFL
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes I am aware there are two kinds. But the Megaman one also
> claims to work with a normal dimmer switch, but in reality
> you need to flick the dimmer switch off and on. Notice that
> although the Varilight one says it will work with a normal
> dimmer switch, it doesn't say it will work in a traditional
> dimmer switch way.
>
> I am just being paranoid may be.
>
> And I totally agree with your LED statement. In the US there
> are already dimmable LED spotlight kits, but quite expensive
> at the moment (IIRC $60 for a bulb then $120 for the
> controller). No doubt it will be even more expensive when it
> gets here. That is until the Chinese manufacturers start to
> mass-produce them! :D
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
>
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Neil Ball" <neilball@...>
wrote:
> >
> > There are 2 versions of the Varilight unit, 1 that is dimmable
with
> > conventional leading edge dimmers and another that does the
staged
> dimming
> > by flicking the switch which I am sure will soon will not
> have much of
> > a future if the 1st type works well.
> >
> >
> >
> > I expect that LEDs will solve the GU10 issue in time,
manufacturers
> > are making significant steps forward in this area in
> relatively small
> > time scales.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil B.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> > wywywywywywywywywywy
> > Sent: 02 October 2007 16:49
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: dimmable CFL
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have also been waiting for these since about 6 months ago.
> > And since last week they are finally available :D
> >
> > But do they REALLY work with a normal dimmer switch (and hence HA
> > systems) though?
> >
> > Because the Megaman one claims that it does, but in reality
> you have
> > to flick it off and on, which isn't very good on a HA
> system. So I am
> > hoping the Varilight one is not like the Megaman one.
> >
> > And I am not sure how long it will take to warm up either.
> >
> > Kinda wish they would bring out a GU10 version though! As
> 12 of them
> > in the living room really do consume a lot of energy...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wayne
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com,
> > Chris Hunter <cjhunter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > great, thanks ... see they also do (are thinking about
doing)
> > > something for standard linear fluorescent's ... which
> might suit us
> > > even better ...
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1 Oct 2007, at 10:56, jamie_whitehorn wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > These lights are made by Varilight and come in two
forms. The
> version
> > > > you've pointed at works form a normal switch and would,
> I think,
> > > > be difficult to use with an HA system. The other
version can be
> > > > used with a standard dimmer (http://tinyurl.
> > > > <http://tinyurl.com/yt7vr2>
> com/yt7vr2
> > <http://tinyurl.
<http://tinyurl.com/yt7vr2>
com/yt7vr2>
> > > > ), and might be easier to use with an HA system just by
using a
> normal
> > > > dimmer component (eg Idratek SLD).
> > > >
> > > > The switch dimmable ones have been available for a
while. The
> dimmable
> > > > ones were supposed to be available in May and slipped
and
> slipped and
> > > > slipped their shipping date. This doesn't really
surprise me as
> > > > making a flourescent light dimmable from a normal
> dimmer switch is
> > > > a bit of a technical challenge - normal dimmable
flourescents
> > > > require a
> 240v feed
> > > > for the heaters. I've had one on order since May and
they've
> > > > finally said they are shipping them. I've also been
talking to
> > > > Karam at Idratek about these and they've also got one
> on order to
> > > > test with an
> SLD, so
> > > > I'm waiting for the thumbs up before plugging into the
home
> > > > Idratek system (apparently if they don't work in a
standard way
> > > > there is a possiblity that it could have unexpected
> results on the
> > > > SLD). As soon as I get any feed back I'll post an
update.
> > > >
> > > > HTH, Jamie
> > >
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