RE: Alarm systems

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hi all,



Would be interested in this as well, new house currently has the original
15 yo builder installed alarm and having had comfort in last house am
thinking of installing it again this time (I had the comfort system taken
out of previous house on recommendation of estate agent) but would like to
retain the auto police notification etc that comes with the monitoring as
we
are away a lot.



would i be locked out of all comfort tweaking if i tried to get a NACOSS
install?? or is there a partitioned firmware that seperates the alarm bit
from the automation side of things?? How much would it cost on average to
get someone to come out and tweak some comfort settings on top of the usual
requirement for an annual service check



Alternative would be to get alarm company to install a new alarm system and
run Comfort as an automation controller in parallel the big need here would
be to have an alarm that could be armed / disarmed remotely via  Comfort
(planning to install a couple of touchscreens) and for comfort to be able
to
get some basic status from the alarm panel i.e.  the alarm is going off or
not, assume this could easily be achieved using the standard bell or strobe
wiring to a relay and then a  comfort zone



Any ideas or am i barking up the wrong tree



Cheers



Paul

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Raymond Kelly
Sent: 15 August 2007 09:02
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Alarm systems



I'm interested too in anyone who has looked at the NACOSS thing with say
C-Bus. What I don't understand is what the boundaries are and how is a
potential NACOSS installation defined.
Any NACOSS experiences welcome!!

On 15/08/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx
<mailto:cjhunter%40dircon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> interesting .... 'no feel for what the increase in 'premium is for
> not having a NACOSS alarm ... is it a big issue ? 'guess
> reliability should be better if the alarm system is separate, but is
> that the case, in-practice ? 'just wondering !
>
> Chris
>
> On 15 Aug 2007, at 01:58, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
>
> > I use an Ademco/Microtech/Honeywell "Galaxy" system -
several other
> > names it's offered under. too. ( I think latest versions may now
no
> > longer be called Galaxy)
> >
> > It's a great mature system used by many professional installers
with
> > well priced extras available on eBay - including installer
manuals
> > etc.
> > Several models with differing zone capacities and wireless
options
> > etc.
> > Mine is a Galaxy 60. Very powerful programming capabilities as
the
> > product family is used in residential through to large commercial
> > installs. I have wired inputs and outputs to this going into
> > HomeVision
> > and a Netiom as well as a serial and Ethernet connection and it
> > satisfies almost all my HA needs as I have put together a xAP
> > interface
> > to it. Zone activations (PIR's etc) can be reported via 'linking'
> > the
> > zones to outputs or via serial/Ethernet. It may be 'awkward' to
get
> > the full serial/Ethernet protocol but typically its not needed.
It
> > doesn't have any integrated HA facilities persay beyond basic I/O
> > - ie
> > no C-Bus/X10 or programmable serial but my other HA controllers
take
> > care of that. I'm a great believer in each box serving a specific
> > purpose and doing that independently and well. Hence not doubling
an
> > alarm up as a HA system. Others may differ.
> >
> > Main issue will be if you need a NACOSS install with maintenance
as
> > you
> > will likely be excluded from all programming access and maybe
some
> > access via serial/Ethernet. You might have to relay/opto isolate
> > inpust
> > and outputs. This is going to be true on any system though.
> > Depending on your installer they may be happy with some extra
> > facilities
> > though .
> >
> > Comfort is another suggestion. I had one for a while ... for me I
> > really don't like the speech interface or the panels programming
> > structure. The X10 interafce is OK but the C-Bus interface is
rather
> > limted (and expensive) - but then I would say that I guess ;-)
> >
> > Kevin
>
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