RE: Alarm systems

["David Guest" <david.guest@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not that bothered about it being NACOSS
as
it is a low crime area (touch wood) so the insurance isn't steep. I did
check when getting the insurance quote what difference having an alarm
would make:
7.5% for a NACOSS alarm
12.5% for NACOSS alarm that automatically notifies the police
In my case the discount doesn't offset the cost of having it fitted,
serviced, etc. Also, I worry that if you got the discount you may have
more trouble claiming if a break-in happened when the alarm was off.

I do like the idea of seperate boxes for specific tasks so I will have a
look at the galaxy.

Another question is: If you have installed the system yourself can you
get it NACOSS approved (assuming the alarm itself is able to be) at a
later date without having it all rewired etc. Something like doing your
own electrics and then getting an electrician to sign off Part P regs.

David

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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chris Hunter
Sent: 15 August 2007 08:01
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Alarm systems



interesting .... 'no feel for what the increase in 'premium is for
not having a NACOSS alarm ... is it a big issue ? 'guess
reliability should be better if the alarm system is separate, but is
that the case, in-practice ? 'just wondering !

Chris

On 15 Aug 2007, at 01:58, Kevin Hawkins wrote:

> I use an Ademco/Microtech/Honeywell "Galaxy" system -
several other
> names it's offered under. too. ( I think latest versions may now no
> longer be called Galaxy)
>
> It's a great mature system used by many professional installers with
> well priced extras available on eBay - including installer manuals
> etc.
> Several models with differing zone capacities and wireless options
> etc.
> Mine is a Galaxy 60. Very powerful programming capabilities as the
> product family is used in residential through to large commercial
> installs. I have wired inputs and outputs to this going into
> HomeVision
> and a Netiom as well as a serial and Ethernet connection and it
> satisfies almost all my HA needs as I have put together a xAP
> interface
> to it. Zone activations (PIR's etc) can be reported via 'linking'
> the
> zones to outputs or via serial/Ethernet. It may be 'awkward' to get
> the full serial/Ethernet protocol but typically its not needed. It
> doesn't have any integrated HA facilities persay beyond basic I/O
> - ie
> no C-Bus/X10 or programmable serial but my other HA controllers take
> care of that. I'm a great believer in each box serving a specific
> purpose and doing that independently and well. Hence not doubling an
> alarm up as a HA system. Others may differ.
>
> Main issue will be if you need a NACOSS install with maintenance as
> you
> will likely be excluded from all programming access and maybe some
> access via serial/Ethernet. You might have to relay/opto isolate
> inpust
> and outputs. This is going to be true on any system though.
> Depending on your installer they may be happy with some extra
> facilities
> though .
>
> Comfort is another suggestion. I had one for a while ... for me I
> really don't like the speech interface or the panels programming
> structure. The X10 interafce is OK but the C-Bus interface is rather
> limted (and expensive) - but then I would say that I guess ;-)
>
> Kevin

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