Re: Smart Fridge was MCE Washing Machine

[Mal Lansell <mal@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I was talking to a used car dealer the other day about that very thing
(thanks to some f**kwit BT employee whose reckless impatience resulted
in my own car being written off).

I joked about how my local Vauxhall dealership had once said "if the
computer doesn't report anything we don't know where to start", only
to
have him agree with the sentiment.  He said cars now suffer from
"add-on
engineering", which has made traditional diagnosis all but impossible.

Mal


kwatt@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Yeah, I know about some of it.
>
> From what I understand a lot of the reason for connectivity is to
report
> faults to a call centre and schedule a visit as required. Also on
these
> machines, Gorenje and Indesit (Hotpoint, Creda, Ariston, Indesit) they
> will
> not tell you anything about the fault codes etc. so that they retain
all
> that in-house, not allowing the customer or anyone outside their
domain to
> offer a repair.
>
> Like many other industries, cars being a good example, the technology
can
> work against you just as much as for you.
>
> Fun innit?
>
> K.
>
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>]
On
> Behalf Of
> Chris Hunter
> Sent: 25 November 2006 18:59
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Smart Fridge was MCE Washing Machine
>
> In the EIB / Knx world, there are already fridges & ovens &
freezers &
> wash-machines etc that link to HA, with quite a long list of
parameters
> ... 'though detalied contents is not yet one of them ...
>
> Chris
>
> Lehane Kellett wrote:
>
> >The problem isn't just manufacturers, its a whole long chain....
> >
> >Take the smart fridge.
> >
> >The nirvana would be one (or a system) that knows what is in there
and
> >when it expires, where to order it from, what the alternatives are
and
> >whether it was a one off.
> >
> >As you say, that really needs item level RFID on pretty much every
item
> >- not coming anytime soon for most of the items in the fridge for
a host
> >of reasons.
> >But even if the manufacturers tag them, the chances are the
consumer
> >lobbies are going to ensure they are de-activated when you leave
the
> >store, just in case....
> >And anyway the tag won't have an expiry date on it, just a code,
so
> >you'll have to go online to some enormous database/webservice
provided
> >by...who?
> >As for an alternate brand, well that referral service will have to
be
> >paid for (probably by another manufacturer/supplier) so it is
hardly
> >going to be independent.
> >
> >So, depressing as it is, many solutions which are feasible aren't
going
> >to happen at a pace we'd all like, if ever.
> >
> >Lehane
> >
> >
> >Ian Lowe wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I can easily see the point of a smart fridge, but not a
washing
> machine or
> >>drier (at least, not in that sense).
> >>
> >>When we start seeing large scale rollout of RFID tags per
product,
> rather
> >>than per pallet, you could imagine having a smart washing
machine that
> >>(for
> >>instance) alerts you if you have a sensitive item in a hot
wash, or that
> >>automatically picks the right program for a given load of
washing. you
> >>could
> >>see having the right amount of detergent or softener dispensed
from a
> >>reservoir, rather than having to put in the right amount for
each wash.
> >>
> >>For a fridge, the thought of the fridge knowing exactly what
is
> inside it,
> >>expiry dates (because it knows when the item first appeared)
and so on,
> >>smart re-ordering etc.
> >>
> >>It's frustrating when there are so many ways in which this
stuff *could*
> >>work, and the manufacturers just don't seem to "get
it".
> >>
> >>Ian.
> >>
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