RE: Smart Fridge was MCE Washing Machine

[<kwatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, I know about some of it.



>From what I understand a lot of the reason for connectivity is to
report
faults to a call centre and schedule a visit as required. Also on these
machines, Gorenje and Indesit (Hotpoint, Creda, Ariston, Indesit) they will
not tell you anything about the fault codes etc. so that they retain all
that in-house, not allowing the customer or anyone outside their domain to
offer a repair.



Like many other industries, cars being a good example, the technology can
work against you just as much as for you.



Fun innit?



K.



From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Chris Hunter
Sent: 25 November 2006 18:59
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Smart Fridge was MCE Washing Machine



In the EIB / Knx world, there are already fridges & ovens &
freezers &
wash-machines etc that link to HA, with quite a long list of parameters
... 'though detalied contents is not yet one of them ...

Chris

Lehane Kellett wrote:

>The problem isn't just manufacturers, its a whole long chain....
>
>Take the smart fridge.
>
>The nirvana would be one (or a system) that knows what is in there and
>when it expires, where to order it from, what the alternatives are and
>whether it was a one off.
>
>As you say, that really needs item level RFID on pretty much every item
>- not coming anytime soon for most of the items in the fridge for a
host
>of reasons.
>But even if the manufacturers tag them, the chances are the consumer
>lobbies are going to ensure they are de-activated when you leave the
>store, just in case....
>And anyway the tag won't have an expiry date on it, just a code, so
>you'll have to go online to some enormous database/webservice provided
>by...who?
>As for an alternate brand, well that referral service will have to be
>paid for (probably by another manufacturer/supplier) so it is hardly
>going to be independent.
>
>So, depressing as it is, many solutions which are feasible aren't going
>to happen at a pace we'd all like, if ever.
>
>Lehane
>
>
>Ian Lowe wrote:
>
>
>>I can easily see the point of a smart fridge, but not a washing
machine or
>>drier (at least, not in that sense).
>>
>>When we start seeing large scale rollout of RFID tags per product,
rather
>>than per pallet, you could imagine having a smart washing machine
that
>>(for
>>instance) alerts you if you have a sensitive item in a hot wash, or
that
>>automatically picks the right program for a given load of washing.
you
>>could
>>see having the right amount of detergent or softener dispensed from
a
>>reservoir, rather than having to put in the right amount for each
wash.
>>
>>For a fridge, the thought of the fridge knowing exactly what is
inside it,
>>expiry dates (because it knows when the item first appeared) and so
on,
>>smart re-ordering etc.
>>
>>It's frustrating when there are so many ways in which this stuff
*could*
>>work, and the manufacturers just don't seem to "get it".
>>
>>Ian.
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